Select Committee on Procedure Minutes of Evidence


Submission from Ms Sally Keeble MP

  Many thanks for your letter, and for the very close interest you have taken in this issue.

  As I mentioned to you in the House, your committee clerk very kindly phoned up and I have already made arrangements to come and give evidence to your committee's inquiry.

  I did some research into the issue, and considered very carefully before raising the issue with the Leader of the House last year. As I probably made clear in my last letter,[1] the issue is one of balancing the right to ensure that people get a fair trial with freedom of speech, and the need for MPs to balance their role as legislators with their role as advocates for their constituencies.

  There will always be a tension. However, it seems to me that there are a few points which make the application of the House's present sub judice rule—in particular as it applies to matters before coroners' court—militate against fair speech, and MPs' ability to represent their constituents. It is also out of line with the sub judice rule as it applies to the media. I would make the following points:

    (i)    No-one is on trial at a coroner's court. Although it seeks to establish the facts in relation to deaths, there is a real limit to the verdicts that the court can deliver—and they cannot impute blame to an individual.

    (ii)    The sub judice rule generally only applies to trials heard by a jury. It is generally assumed that judges are not influenced by others' views and opinions expressed via the media and elsewhere. I would have thought that where a coroner sits on their own without a jury, the same approach should apply.

    (iii)    The application of the sub judice rule is normally very time-limited, either from a warrant being issued, or charges laid. Arguably whenever there is a suspicious death, there is likely to be an inquest. This could mean that the matter would be sub judice from the moment of the death until the end of the final piece of legal action—which is a very long time. If you take, for example, the death of the late Princess of Wales, the inquest in the UK has been many years after the event.

    (iv)    The application of the sub judice rule is normally restricted to the very narrow matter before the court. It is recognised that wider general issues of public concern still have to be debated and discussed, and especially by those of us who are MPs and usually want to see general public policy issues dealt with by the Government.

  The sub judice rule in relation to matters before coroners' courts has been hard to apply consistently. For example, the House of Lords has had an oral statement on Rainsbrook. Rudi Vis MP had a written question answered on matters at the heart of the issue about use of restraint at youth training centres. So it is unclear why my inquiries on the subject have been so comprehensively blocked.

  I have trawled through the internet to see what happens in other legislatures, and enclose some of the findings (not printed). The Australians seem to have given it the most thought, and the report on the matter in Queensland is helpful in identifying the different strands of the argument. It also includes some comparison with the Canadian approach and our own. Also enclosed is a copy of the Canadian procedures, an interesting set of recommendations from the Indian Parliament. And finally, for more lively reading, an article from Trinidad which makes similar points in blunter language.

  I'm sorry if this arrives late, but it may be of interest and assistance to the committee to see the way that parliamentarians elsewhere have wrestled with this issue.

  I look forward to meeting with your committee.

February 2005





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