Select Committee on Procedure Minutes of Evidence


Supplementary submission from Ms Sally Keeble MP

BACKGROUND NOTE

  There are four basic functions that MPs fulfil in Parliament:

    (i)  legislative

    (ii)  holding the executive to account

    (iii)  advocacy for constituents

    (iv)  sounding board on general issues

  The issue which I am seeking to raise relates to (ii), as I am seeking to hold the executive, in particular to hold the Home Office, and the Department for Education and Skills, which has the lead responsibility for children's services, (and to a lesser extent the Department of Health and the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister) to account for standards in residential establishments for children and young people serving my constituency.

  Contrary to what seems to have been assumed, I am not seeking to raise a case of a constituent.

  My particular concern, as set out in my previous letter, is that the sub judice rule as it is being applied to matters before coroners' courts, is preventing me carrying out my functions as an MP to question the standards of care being provided for children and young people in establishments that serve my constituency. There may be a need for the establishments, both Home Office and local authority, to be fully investigated, as I fear that there may be something of a culture of violence against children and young people in them. However, it would not be fair on the institutions or the staff to press for such an investigation without at first at least getting some further information. This is what I have been trying to get.

Constitutional position of parliament, and the sub judice rule

  In the evidence before the committee, much has been made of the separation of powers as being the basis of the sub judice rule. However, the doctrine of the separation of powers is one which is more relevant to the written constitution of the United States, with the clear separation between the executive, the legislature and the judiciary. In the UK, our constitution is not written, but is an amalgam of history, convention, precedence and various pieces of legislation. Thus "Statements about the existence and importance of the separation of powers in the United Kingdom must be treated with caution . . . In the United Kingdom the separation of powers plays a secondary role, the lead being taken by the legislative supremacy of parliament." (John Marston and Richard Ward Constitutional and Administrative Law).

  The overwhelming argument for a sub judice rule is the right of our constituents to a fair trial, and for this it is worth Parliament fettering its right to the freedom of speech. However, this fettering of the freedom of speech should not go further than is required to ensure that a trial is fair.

  Previous versions of the sub judice rule applied to the Commons did not refer to coroners' courts, and it was not until 1992 that the Speaker ruled that cases before coroners' courts were covered by the House's sub judice rule. In the speech by Stephen Twigg in December 2002 when the new sub judice rule was agreed, no justification or explanation was given to extending the rule to coroners' courts.

  The use of the sub judice rule as it applies to the media is instructive. Broadly, the rule is applied to cases where there are trials, either pending or in process, which are heard by juries. It is not applied to proceedings that are heard by judges, because it is assumed that a judge is immune from influence by external pressures of this type. In addition, while the media will take cognisance of the sub judice rule when deciding whether to publish an article, the legality of a decision to publish will be tested after the event in the court.

  In effect then, the rule applied to Parliament is very much more stringent than that which applies to the media. In addition, although we have the right to appeal to the Speaker, he is advised by the officers of the House who also apply the rule to members. There is no testing after the event as to whether the sub judice rule has been broken.

  Therefore our right to free speech, much less our ability to hold the executive to account, is very much less than that of the media in these circumstances.

  Looking at international comparisons, it appears that Canada, New Zealand, Australia and India do not have such restrictive rules. The report of the inquiry in Queensland, Australia, which has been submitted to the committee, sets out very well the tension between the sub judice rule and free speech.

Effectiveness of the sub judice rule

  The impracticality of the sub judice rule is well demonstrated in the case that I have been seeking to raise. It concerns the death of a boy in a residential institution in April 2004 following an incident when restraint was used. The inquest was opened and adjourned on 28 April 2004, and there it remains.

  However, the case has been raised publicly in the following ways:

    (i)    the Home Office issued a news release on the subject.

    (ii)    Rudi Vis put down a question which was answered on the wider issue of use of restraint in youth training centres.

    (iii)    28 April 2004 Lord Elton specifically named the case and asked about the disciplinary measures being taken in a question in the House of Lords that was followed by a number of other questions from other peers.

    (iv)    Lord Listoval named the boy and the institution during the debate in the Lords on the Children Bill in May 2004.

    (v)    29 November 2004 Baroness Vivien Stern specifically named the boy and the institution during the debate on the Gracious Speech in the House of Lords.

    (vi)    9 February 2005 Paul Goggins, prisons minister, specifically named the boy and the institution during a debate in Westminster Hall.

Present situation in relation to the Northamptonshire case

  At present the coroner's court is still waiting for a decision from the Crown Prosecution Service as to whether there will be any prosecutions in the case of ****. There has been no indication as to when a decision will be forthcoming. The Home Office has been looking into the situation, but it has not been possible to get full information about what it is doing—because no statement was made to the House about any investigations after the boy's death, and it is now not possible to get information because the matter is said to be sub judice.

  My concern remains that during the time that the coroner's court has been adjourned—almost a year—progress could have been made in calling the executive to account for the management of youth training centres and in particular the use of restraint techniques in them. Progress could also have been made in holding the executive to account for standards of staff training, disciplining of children and young people and checking of records during the year.

  One of the arguments that has been put is that the sub judice rule does not prevent debate, it only delays it. Meanwhile, MPs cannot hold the executive to account on the use of restraint in youth training centres, the checking of records of staff moving from institutions which have had incidents of child abuse, or the training of staff in these centres or related institutions. That seems to me to be a completely intolerable restraint on the proper role of an MP, and something of a dereliction of duty towards those of our constituents' children who are in these institutions.

March 2005





 
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