Select Committee on Public Accounts Minutes of Evidence


Further supplementary memorandum submitted by the Department of Health

  I attach the notes promised at the hearing. In addition, Sir Nigel would like to amend the estimated figure of 1,100 he gave to question 159 at the hearing to 960. A total of 80 training places in the UK were lost with the closure of the Edinburgh and University College London dental schools. The schools were run down to complete closure by 1992. In the 12 years from 1993 to 2004, therefore, some 960 additional dentists would have trained but for the closures.

Question 73 (Jon Trickett):   Will the NHS find a person, who perhaps owed significant money to a dentist or to the NHS, another dentist without first of all securing the money that they owe?

  Under the present patient charge arrangements, dentists are responsible for bad debts if patients fail to pay the correct NHS charges for treatments they receive. Generally, dentists are well practised at minimising the risk of bad debts, for example by requiring patients to pay as they go if their treatment extends over more than one visit. If a dentist is unwilling to treat a particular individual, they also have the ultimate right to refuse to treat that patient.

  Whilst the incidence of bad debts can undoubtedly be a nuisance and irritant, the profession have not brought forward evidence to suggest that the scale of loss is a serious financial burden, or that it is large enough to justify maintaining a centralised system to track patients with a record of bad debts. Therefore, a patient who approaches their primary care trust (PCT) or NHS Direct for assistance in finding NHS dental care would not necessarily be identified if they had an outstanding bad debt arising from a previous NHS treatment.

  We have given guarantees that where patient charge revenue falls because of the new ways of working (ie not where patients have just simply not paid), practices will not lose out financially. We will expect dental practices to be as rigorous in the new world as they are now in collecting patient charges.

Question 96 (Mr Field):   Could you give the breakdown for the four constituencies on the Wirral, because I guessed there might be differences where these new patients were picked up?

  Patient registrations (or on practice lists) with general dental service or personal dental service, dentists on 30 September 2004 in the four constituencies within Wirral are as follows:
Adult registrations/listed Children's registrations/listed
Birkenhead  36,431 11,368
Wallasey  44,149 15,520
Wirral West  33,121 10,364
Wirral South  35,628 10,427
Total149,32947,679


  The registrations/listings are with the dentists in these areas. The figures will include some patients who are resident in other areas. Similarly, some patients from these areas will get dental treatment in other areas. Therefore, the figures for small areas should be treated with caution.

  The registration period in the general dental service is 15 months. Patients who have not seen a dentist in the past 15 months eg some occasional attenders will not be counted in these figures. In the personal dental service, the registration/listing periods can be different; a longer period increases the numbers because occasional attenders are counted for longer after their last attendance.

  The registration/listing rates for the area covered by the four constituencies are 68.8% for children and 61.1% for adults. Separate rates cannot be calculated for the individual constituencies because population figures are not available. However, for adults, using the electoral roll numbers in individual constituencies to estimate adult populations for the individual constituencies gives the following registration/listing rates:
Adult registration/listing rates 30 Sept 2004
Birkenhead62.8%
Wallasey68.3%
Wirral West53.3%
Wirral South59.6%
These rates are affected by the particular locations of dentists.


Question 99 (Mr Field):  Is not collecting bad debts part of the treadmill you are trying to get dentists off?

  The "treadmill" in NHS dentistry usually refers to the Item of Service approach to remuneration, whereby a dentist is paid more for providing more operative dental treatments where these are permitted in the Statement of Dental Remuneration.

  Dentists will still be expected to be the initial collection point for NHS charges, because that is the most convenient arrangement for patients. However, by moving away from the "treadmill" of an item of service approach to remuneration for dentists, which in turn has given rise to the nearly 400 different treatment charge rates, it should be possible to introduce a far simpler system of patient charges which will be less onerous and bureaucratic for dentists to administer.

Question 100 (Mr Field):  Did you look at whether nursing mothers and young children were the two most deserving groups if we were going to exempt groups en bloc from charges? Are there no more deserving groups like diabetics or others who perhaps ought to be given free treatment?

  The issue of NHS patient charge exemption categories is wider than the modernising dentistry programme. Current exemptions from dental charges are based in primary legislation, and were only recently reconfirmed in the Health and Social Care (Community Health and Standards) Act 2003. In his Written Ministerial Statement on NHS dentistry reforms on 10 January 2005, the Secretary of State confirmed that new regulations for dental charging will be published for consultation in the summer of 2005.

  Promoting dental health care towards nursing and expectant mothers may still have benefits as preventable oral diseases can, and do start, in children as young as 0-5 years of age.

Question 117 (Mr Steinberg):  What is "a short distance" (ie distance between caller and dentist recommended)?

  Primary care trusts have developed local distances standards between the location of a caller to a helpline (either local or NHS Direct) and the location of the dentist recommended to them.

  For example, the local distance standards for Durham and Chester-le-Street (Mr Steinberg's PCT) are as follows:

  In urban areas, routine care five miles, urgent care 15 miles and emergency care 15 miles. In the case of rural areas, agreed distances are generally greater: routine care 25 miles, urgent care 35 miles and emergency care 35 miles.

Question 139 (Mr Bacon):  Can you summarise the position for dentists in the UK as to income and numbers, including information on all the dentists in the UK, let us know how many there are, how many of them work purely in public practices, in the NHS, how many of them work purely in private practice, that is, purely for themselves privately, and how many operate what you call a mixed economy, and what the income levels are for these different types of dentists, showing also regional variations, so a public/private mix, showing also the difference between income for the practice and the actual income for a dentist?

Number of Dentists

  The number of NHS dentists in Great Britain can be broken down by dental service as follows:
Number of dentists (headcount)
General Dental Service (GDS)20,800 at Sept 2004
Personal Dental Service (PDS)3,500 of whom 700 also work in the GDS
Community Dental Service (CDS)1,940 some of whom also work in the PDS
Salaried Dental Service (SDS)200
Hospital Dental Service(HDS)2,245


  Very few practising dentists do no NHS work at all. The Office for Fair Trading Report reported that only 210 practices out of 11,000 in the UK are wholly private.

Dentists' Income

Self-employed dentists

  Dentists working in the General Dental Service (GDS) are largely principal dentists who are qualified to work unsupervised. These dentists are self-employed. They are free to vary the amount of NHS work they do. These dentists receive both capitation payments—monthly payments for each registered patient—and payments for treatment carried out. The fees are a national set of fees and are set out in a Statement of Dental Remuneration. The payments are gross and are intended to cover a dentist's practice expenses as well as their personal income. Dentists in PDS who are self-employed will also be paid using various combinations of capitation, treatment or fixed rate service payments.

Gross fee income of GDS dentists

  Average gross GDS fee income of a GDS dentist for GDS work in 2003-04 was £101,000 in England. Gross fee income of a NHS dentist includes both their personal remuneration as well as business expenses such as staff salaries, laboratory charges and dental consumables. The average net GDS income after expenses would be about £45,000.

  The income distribution is very wide reflecting the large differences in the amount of GDS work done by individual dentists. Principal GDS dentists do not have a standard working week. They are self-employed and choose the amount of GDS work they do. Most dentists have other income either from private dentistry or from other NHS work.

Gross fee income of dentists with a reasonable commitment to the GDS

  Average gross GDS fee income for dentists with a reasonable GDS commitment was about £143,000 in 2003-04. The average excludes dentists with gross fee income of less than £57,300 which excludes dentists doing two days or less each week. Taking into account estimated expenses, average net fee income of a GDS dentist with a reasonable GDS commitment was around £66,700 in 2003-04. This is equivalent to about £69,000 this year, 2004-05.

Earnings split

  In 2003-04, dentists' fee income accounted for about 92% of total earnings as follows:

    —  Child capitation payments—13%;

    —  Child item of service—13%;

    —  Adult continuing care payments—7%;

    —  Adult item of service—59%.

  Dentists' other payments make up a further 8%. This includes Continuing Professional Development, commitment payments, seniority payments, training grants, business rates etc.

Distribution of gross fee earnings

  There is a wide distribution of gross fee earnings, which reflects many variations in the amount of GDS work done. A significant number of dentists now do relatively small amounts of GDS work.

  Table 1 below shows the distribution of gross fee earnings in £50,000 bands, 2003-04, this is also illustrated graphically below (figure 1)—
Gross earningsMen WomenTotal % of total
Under £50,0003,255 1,7044,95934%
£50,000—£99,9992,024 1,2833,30723%
£100,000—£149,9992,574 9503,52424%
£150,000—£199,9991,438 2401,67812%
£200,000—£249,999496 655614%
£250,000—£299,999190 262161%
Over £300,000208 202282%
Total10,1854,288 14,473100%


  Figure 1—Earnings distributions of dentists (in £5,000 bands, adjusted to 2003-04 feescale): England and Wales, 1993-94 and 2003-04


GDS earnings by region

  Average gross GDS fee earnings are highest in the Yorkshire region. Figures by region are shown below. The higher figure in Yorkshire will be due to dentists in that region doing more GDS work.

  Table 2 below shows the distribution of gross fee earnings by region, 2003-04—
Region:Number of
Principals

Gross Earnings
Average Gross
Earnings
Yorkshire1,206146,349,525 121,351
South West Thames (excluding London)1,753 200,668,969114,472
Northern1,692189,156,837 111,795
Wessex1,422156,696,885 110,195
South East Thames (excluding London)1,350 148,111,319109,712
Wales80686,736,573 107,614
Oxford2,244219,754,839 97,930
South Western2,542217,267,166 85,471
West Midlands1,458119,640,692 82,058
Total14,4731,484,382,806 102,562


Private and GDS earnings

  Information is available from the Inland Revenue for reported schedule D earnings covering both NHS and private work. The information is for average gross income, expenses and net income after expenses. For the tax year 2002-03, the results are available for 3,000 single-handed dentists. Average gross income for these dentists from both NHS and private work was £167,300 for the tax year 2002-03. On average 56.6% of their income was allowable as expenses. This left £72,550 for average net earnings. The averages cover all dentists whether or not they are working full-time or part-time. An analysis by sex and age group is Table 3 with separate figures for the Thames regions and elsewhere.

  Average gross income of £167,300 covering both NHS and private work can be compared to the GDS gross income for these dentists in the financial year 2002-03 of about £97,500. This indicates that GDS income accounts for almost 60% of total income on average.

  The average of £72,550 for net income after expenses for both NHS and private work covers all dentists whether they work full-time or part-time. For full-time dentists the average would be higher.

  Average net income of £72,550 covering both NHS and private work compares with the assessment of £63,000 for the average GDS income in 2002-03 of a dentist with a reasonable commitment to GDS. Since GDS income is almost 60% of total income on average, this implies that a full-time private dentist will earn an average of over £90,000 a year in order for the overall average for NHS and private work to be £72,550.

Table 3: Gross income, expenses ratio and net income from NHS and private dental work for the tax year 2002-03: Great Britain

Number in
Survey

Gross
Popn
Average
Gross
Earnings

Expenses
Ratio (%)

Average Net
Earnings
Men
Single-handedAged under 35 Thames regions4278 £167,76560.67£65,990
Elsewhere 126237£175,634 58.66£72,606
Aged 35-44Thames regions 169276£207,628 58.20£86,791
Elsewhere 559847£185,966 56.08£81,675
Aged 45-54Thames regions 208324£192,589 60.18£76,697
Elsewhere 7671,041£167,234 55.56£74,327
Aged 55 and overThames regions 134212£162,605 55.95£71,625
Elsewhere 343464£145,694 54.48£66,326
In partnershipAll ages Thames regions1328 £189,80556.43£82,702
Elsewhere 158245£158,017 52.12£75,663
All men 2,5193,752 £173,80656.37 £75,833
Women
Single-handedAged under 35 Thames regions1440 £130,86864.71£46,181
Elsewhere 54102£153,834 62.70£57,377
Aged 35-44Thames regions 4282£137,818 55.93£60,742
Elsewhere 156258£156,089 59.79£62,758
Aged 45-54Thames regions 3864£137,642 58.65£56,910
Elsewhere 104178£130,935 55.55£58,203
Aged 55 and overThames regions 1524£117,078 50.05£58,479
Elsewhere 3749£100,111 55.19£44,860
In partnershipAll ages Thames regions816 £141,68451.97£68,052
Elsewhere 5274£125,997 51.96£60,535
All women 520887 £139,70658.00 £58,675
All dentists 3,0394,639 £167,28656.63 £72,552


Salaried dentists

  Dentists working in the CDS, SDS and HDS and some dentists in PDS are salaried dentists and are paid on salary scales recommended by the Review Body (Doctor's and Dentist's Review Body DDRB). The Community Dental Officer salary scale payable from the 1 April 2004 ranged from £30,313 to £48,016. The Senior Dental Officer scales ranged from £43,721 to £59,422.

Question 176:  The money going to PCTs, will this be ring-fenced to stop the PCTs stealing dentists' money for other things?

  Primary care trusts' additional dental allocations will be "floor funded" for the initial three-year transitional period, requiring them to spend at least that amount on primary dental services. Primary care trusts will be free to supplement these allocations with additional funds for dentistry from their devolved resources if they consider this necessary in the light of local needs and priorities.

Question 176 (Chairman):  I would like to have a note please on paragraph 2.8, where the National Audit Office notes that "it is still not clear what services dentists will be contracted to provide, what services patients can expect or what charges patients will pay and on when you intend to provide dentists and the public with this information?

  It is proposed to carry forward broadly the same definition of "treatment" as used in the NHS (General Dental Services) Regulations, Regulation 2, except for orthodontic treatment and sedation, which will be subject to separate agreements with the primary care trust. The GDS definition would, therefore, read:

        "treatment" means all proper and necessary dental treatment, which a dentist usually undertakes for a patient and which the patient is willing to undergo, including examination, diagnosis, preventive treatment, periodontal treatment, conservative treatment, surgical treatment, the supply and repair of dental appliances, the taking of radiographs, the supply of listed drugs and the issue of prescriptions.

  Under a general dental services contract in the new arrangements, practices will have to provide dental treatment that is clinically necessary.

  There will be a contractual requirement to submit data to the Dental Practice Board or its successor body for verification of patient charges due and activity carried out under the contract. The Dental Reference Service will also have functions in relation to quality assurance of the new system. Information for contract monitoring by the primary care trust will be reported on a monthly basis.

  Ministers are considering Harry Cayton's report. What is clear is that any new system will be simpler to understand and administer and more transparent, and we have given a guarantee that practices will not bear any financial risk from any possible fluctuations in charge revenue.

  We can also confirm our intention to publish for consultation the new regulations for local commissioning of primary dental services and dental charging in the summer of 2005.

How confident are you that the proposed expansion in training places is sufficient to meet the longer term projected future need for dentists (ref para 1.43 of the NAO Report)?

  We provided additional funding for 170 extra training places for dental undergraduates—a 25% increase which, by 2010, will result in some 850 additional dental students under training. But, because the course takes five years, the first cohort of new dentists will not qualify until summer 2010. As an interim measure, we are recruiting the equivalent of 1,000 more dentists by:

    —  encouraging dentists taking career breaks to return to work;

    —  providing incentives for dentists with mixed private and NHS practices to increase their NHS commitment; and

    —  recruiting overseas dentists.

  We are confident the new contract will revitalise NHS dentistry and reverse the drift of dentists into private practice, but later this year we will check the assumptions upon which our expansion of the dental workforce are based.

As patients will be moving from a system of paying for each item of treatment to paying for improved oral health, what is the expected impact on income from charges?

  The remit of the patient charge working group was to devise a system that could raise the same proportion of service cost as the current system of patient charges. It is intended to publish the new regulations for local commissioning of primary dental services and dental charging, for consultation, in the summer of 2005.





 
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