Select Committee on Scottish Affairs Second Report


Formal minutes


Wednesday 17 March 2005

Members present:

Mrs Irene Adams, in the Chair
Mr David Hamilton

Mr John Lyons

Mr John MacDougall

John Robertson

Mr Mohammed Sarwar

Mr Michael Weir

The Committee deliberated.

Draft Report (Meeting Scotland's Future Energy Needs), proposed by the Chairman, brought up and read.

Ordered, That the Chairman's draft Report be read a second time, paragraph by paragraph.

Paragraphs 1 to 22 read and agreed to.

Paragraph 23 read, amended and agreed to.

Paragraphs 24 to 27 read and agreed to.

Motion made, to leave out paragraph 28 and insert the following new paragraphs:

"One solution to the problem might be to build new nuclear power stations, but there would be serious problems and public opposition to such a course of action, not least the problems of possible nuclear proliferation and disposal of waste. In his evidence Professor Lovelock was asked about the question of proliferation and sidestepped the issue with the reply :

"I do not know how to deal with other countries, but I do know how to deal with the UK."

Whilst strictly the question of proliferation is outwith the scope of this Report it is none the less a relevant question. How do we justify new nuclear stations in the UK but deny them to other nations?" —(Mr Michael Weir.)

Motion made, and Question put, That the paragraphs be read a second time.

The Committee divided.

Ayes, 1

Mr Michael Weir

Noes, 5

Mr David Hamilton

Mr John Lyons

Mr John MacDougall

John Robertson

Mr Mohammed Sarwar

Motion made, and Question put, That paragraphs 28 to 32 stand part of the Report.

The Committee divided.

Ayes, 5

Mr David Hamilton

Mr John Lyons

Mr John MacDougall

John Robertson

Mr Mohammed Sarwar

Noes, 1

Mr Michael Weir

Paragraphs agreed to.

Paragraphs 33 to 36 read and agreed to.

Paragraph 37 read, as follows:

"The Committee agrees with the statement by the Scottish Renewables Forum that the debate is not about renewables vs. conventional as both will be needed. The energy audit, recommended by the Committee in paragraph 15 above, must, therefore, be on the basis that all current forms of energy, whether renewable, fossil fuel or nuclear, will be necessary."

Amendment proposed, in line 5 to leave out the word "will" and insert the word "may".—(Mr Michael Weir.)

Question put, That the Amendment be made.

The Committee divided.

Ayes, 1

Mr Michael Weir

Noes, 5

Mr David Hamilton

Mr John Lyons

Mr John MacDougall

John Robertson

Mr Mohammed Sarwar

Paragraph agreed to.

Paragraphs 38 to 63 read and agreed to.

Resolved, That the Report, as amended, be the Second Report of the Committee to the House.

Ordered, That the Chairman do make the Report to the House.

Ordered, That the provisions of Standing Order No. 134 (Select Committee (reports)) be applied to the Report.

Ordered, That the Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee be reported to the House.

[Adjourned till a date and time to be fixed by the Chairman


 
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