Select Committee on Science and Technology Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 173 - 179)

WEDNESDAY 23 JUNE 2004

MS ALISON DAVIS, MR PATRICK MAHON AND DR MAUREEN MCHUGH

  Q173  Chairman: Thank you very much for coming along. I think you have been sitting in a little earlier and you have heard the questioning and seen how it work and so on. I wonder if you would briefly say what your interest in this is and what organisation you represent so that we can have it for the record. Alison, would you like to start? You may have to speak up a little as the sound for some reason is not loud. Is it possible to turn the sound up?

  Ms Davis: I have spina bifida, hydrocephalus, osteoporosis and emphysema. I run a group called No Less Human for disabled people, their families and carers, and we campaign for the equal right to life for all disabled people from fertilisation to natural death, although I took part in the on-line discussion in a personal capacity.

  Q174  Chairman: Thank you very much. Maureen?

  Dr McHugh: I am Maureen McHugh. I have had Parkinson's Disease for eight years and I am part of a group called SPRING.

  Q175  Chairman: It is difficult to hear, could we have some help with that.

  Dr McHugh: My name is Maureen McHugh. I have had Parkinson's Disease for eight years. I am belong to a group called SPRING—Special Parkinson's Research Interest Group. We are part of the Parkinson's Society but we are a group of carers and patients who are dedicated to finding better treatment and a cure for Parkinson's Disease. I have contributed to the on-line debate and was also closely involved in the 2000 and 2002 campaigns to have embryonic stem cell research and cloning for therapeutic purposes legalised in the United Kingdom.

  Q176  Chairman: That is fine, thank you very much indeed, that is very helpful. Patrick?

  Mr Mahon: My name is Patrick Mahon and I am involved for two reasons. One is a personal one that I am an identical twin so I am a clone so the element of the debate that relates to cloning seems directly relevant to me. Also I am here in a personal capacity but I used to work on genetics policy until about six months ago when I changed jobs. So that is where my interest came professionally although I have a personal interest as well.

  Chairman: Fine. Evan?

  Q177  Dr Harris: I would like to talk mainly to Alison at this point but please feel free to chip in. As I understand it, your group is part of the Society for the Protection of Unborn Children; is that right?

  Ms Davis: That is right.

  Q178  Dr Harris: I am going to work on the assumption—and that is fine—that you are against abortion and you believe in the right to life from conception of embryos.

  Ms Davis: Yes.

  Q179  Dr Harris: I want to ask you therefore if it could be sorted so that we could avoid significantly disabled embryos and foetuses and babies being born by selecting gametes—that is sperm and eggs not life by your definition—would that be something that you would encourage for the practical reason that it would (and let us assume it would) reduce the number of abortions that took place for so-called medical reasons?

  Ms Davis: As you said, gametes are not human beings and therefore it is a different question. I think that the environment in which human beings ought to be created is not a laboratory so I would be concerned about that happening but, having said that, of course, it does not kill anyone and so it is a different issue.


 
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