Select Committee on Transport Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 178 - 179)

WEDNESDAY 9 MARCH 2005

MR PAUL DAVISON, MR ROGER HARDING, MR PETER HENDY, MR PAT ARMSTRONG AND MR NEIL SCALES

  Q178  Chairman: Good afternoon to you, gentlemen. I am sorry to have made you wait. We cannot always control, like you, all the things that happen to us. Can I ask you to identify yourselves for the record, starting with my left and your right?

  Mr Davison: Paul Davison, Managing Director, Tramtrack Croydon Ltd.

  Mr Harding: Roger Harding, General Manager, Tramtrack Croydon.

  Mr Hendy: Peter Hendy, Managing Director, Surface Transport, Transport for London.

  Mr Armstrong: Pat Armstrong, Promoters' representative for Nottinghamshire County Council and Nottingham City Council.

  Mr Scales: Neil Scales, Chief Executive and Director General of Merseytravel.

  Q179  Chairman: Thank you. All of you represent a very wide range of experience, which is why we have asked you to come. I do not know if you have studied the National Audit Office Report but it says that almost all the old tram systems were closed down because they could not compete with motorised buses and cars. Why do you think that light rail is important for you? Mersey?

  Mr Scales: Thank you, Chairman. We are basically trying to get to a single integrated public transport network that is accessible to everyone, which follows the 1966 White Paper, which set up the PTEs in 1968. When we went through the road transport planning process we did a new approach to transport appraisal across all the county to find out which mode of transport would suit each corridor. That analysis revealed 15-plus quality bus corridors, a three-line tram network and integration points across the county. We looked at it in very careful detail to make sure that we were starting off from a very good base. So what we came up with was a three-line tramway from the ground up rather than thinking that trams were a great idea, and start from that and work backwards. So we put a lot of work into this before put our road transport plan in.


 
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