Select Committee on Trade and Industry Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 76-79)

ELECTRICITY ASSOCIATION

16 SEPTEMBER 2003

  Q76  Chairman: Good morning, gentlemen, we have already met Mr Cuttill, perhaps Mr Maclaren and Mr Symon you would introduce yourselves?

  Mr Symon: I am Robert Symon, I am Chief Executive of Western Power Distribution, we look after the distribution network in South Wales and the south of England.

  Mr MacLaren: I am Robin MacLaren, I am Chairman of the Electricity Association Networks Board and also Managing Director of Scottish Power Transmission and Distribution. As you may be aware the Electricity Association ceases to exist on 30 September and will be replaced from the point of view of distribution companies by an Energy Network Association and one of the things I would ask you to assume is that there will be continuity between what you hear today and the new arrangements.

  Q77  Chairman: We are not going to get any demob happy expressions of indiscretion! Back to our task, I think you have both heard a lot of the discussion we have had and some of the points may well have been covered exhaustively by Mr Cuttill, moving on to you, as DNOs how confident are you that you have a robust system for planning for possible emergencies and also a system that would include estimates of both the effects on the networks of different situations and the resources that you need to deploy? In short, have you begun to learn lessons and have you implemented these lessons of 11 months ago?

  Mr MacLaren: Yes, I think we can all speak for our own companies. As far as the Electricity Association is concerned that is a trade association and what I would say is that we have all been very focused over the last year looking at emergency plans. Each company has independently written to Government to assure them that their plans are in place for this winter. We have coordinated activity to help us to tackle common issues and to spread knowledge between the companies on lessons learned by companies from storms last October and we are focused on trying to disseminate information from experiences built up over historical periods.

  Q78  Chairman: Mr Symon if at any time you want to supplement Mr Maclaren just indicate.

  Mr Symon: The only thing I would add to Robin is I cannot remember an event where so much focus has actually been devoted to it. We had the BPI Report which brought out some really good points and I think we have all learned from them. We have also been trying to make commitments in terms of the changes that we put into place. For example in my   company we have certainly refined the communications system that Paul talked about and we are able to identify those customers from their own telephone numbers, so we have actually taken it one stage further. That information has been shared between us. I think that there has been a moving on and quite rightly attention has been focused on this event.

  Q79  Linda Perham: Mr Symon, if I can carry on with what you just said about customer communications. Can you just list for us the main changes that have been made by your DNO members to communication systems to make sure that customers who are reporting faults or who want information are better served than they were last autumn?

  Mr Symon: I do not have the detail for each individual company perhaps it would be better if I just explained what my particular business has done. First of all we have put in new high volt call-taking facilities. You have a choice, you can either go with BT assembling all of this stuff or you can actually bring it in-house, we have brought it in-house using BT as a back-up, their call-taker system scheme behind it. What we are able to do now is from a telephone number to identify a customer and when a customer rings in we can say that we realise that you are off supply, your postal code is PL9 9LA, or whatever it happens to be, and if you wish to register as being off supply press "one" on your telephone. We have been instituting that in the South West over the last month or so and we believe that has made a tremendous difference in terms of communication with customers. The trouble with the general message is, does the company know you are off supply or not? I think if you can actually add that little bit extra then customers can be convinced that actually you have the situation under control. What we are after is that little piece of information that enables us to solve the fault and there may be somebody else waiting in the queue that has a piece of information that enables us to restore supplies. As with Paul because the information backs up to our control system we can feed back information immediately in terms of whether we expect this fault to last one hour, two hours, three hours, four hours or whatever it happens to be. That is one big change. The other change is that we can hold the whole of our network on one of these small palmtop computers and we can link that to GPS, so if you type in a pole number the operator can actually be directed straight to the pole involved and you can visualise that from the point of view of interchanging staff, you make staff work that much more effectively. All of these things have been communicated and I am sure that we will all learn from each other, there are also other good ideas that have been floated round.

  Mr MacLaren: We run a similar system to the one that Robert described. Following some severe events in Scotland we have beefed up our system and have been running on the basis that we do not want any of our customers to receive an engaged tone. We have increased the capacity of our call system—we did this a couple of years ago—to take 250,000 calls an hour without any bottlenecks occurring, we use messaging systems. We also try and move resources. We have two locales and we operate a virtual call centre across that. We use another telecom provider rather than BT. Each company has its own individual approach. Paul has described what EDF are doing.


 
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