Select Committee on Treasury Written Evidence


Memorandum submitted by Lloyds TSB

  Thank you for your letter dated 9 November 2004, requesting Lloyds TSB's policy and views on the issues to be examined by the Treasury Committee's short examination of cash machine charges.

  Before I comment on the issues which fall within the scope of the Treasury Committee's study, I thought it may be helpful if I provided some background information on Lloyds TSB's position in respect of cash machines.

  We believe cash machines are a vital part of the overall service we provide for our customers. They want access to their money and accounts at a time and a place that suits them. Lloyds TSB has the second-largest cash machine network of any bank in the UK, with some 4,220 cash machines. In recent years, we have responded to customer demand by expanding our network of remote[12] cash machines, providing 24-hour access in more locations. We have installed 200 new non-charging cash machines over the past two years, conveniently located in sites such as petrol stations and supermarkets, and we intend to site more cash machines in such convenient locations in 2005.

  I would now like to respond to the issues to be examined by the Treasury Committee as set out below.

THE PRINCIPLE OF CHARGING AND THE TREND TOWARDS CHARGING

  Lloyds TSB does not charge for withdrawals from its cash machines and does not charge its customers for using other ATM networks[13]. This has been our position since 1 January 2001. There is a significant cost of providing this service—ranging from purchasing new machines and upgrading technology, to daily maintenance and servicing—but we absorb the cost as part of the overall package of banking services we offer our customers. We currently have no plans to charge our customers for using our network of cash machines.

  Most withdrawals from cash machines—96%—are free. There are currently 32,611[14] Link cash machines which do not levy charges for withdrawing cash, and this has increased by 3% over the last 2 years, which equates to an extra 1,000 non-charging cash machines. While Nationwide identifies a significant increase over the last six months in the number of cash machines which charge, we believe it is not the absolute number of charging cash machines that is relevant, but the volume of transactions that take place through those cash machines—which is minimal.

  Cash machines at which a charge is levied, which as already indicated account for only 4% of total cash withdrawal transactions in the UK, make a charge as they are usually situated in low transaction volume sites or on sites where the site owner charges a significant rental. There is a market for non-branch based cash machine sites, and cash machine providers compete for these sites. The interests of the site owner are central to this market and should be factored in to any review of a trend towards charging. A site owner's decision to remove a non-charging cash machine and replace it with a charging one, possibly benefiting from a share of the income from charges and higher rent, usually is outside the control of the cash machine provider.

TRANSPARENCY

  Lloyds TSB has always supported transparency in relation to cash machine charges. We were the first bank to introduce a cash machine "code of conduct" in March 2000 which included a commitment to provide pre-notification of any cash machines charges before consumers withdrew their cash.

  We believe that transparency is key to the discussion on cash machine charging. We fully endorse the Link code which specifies that all cash machines which charge must carry a sign, on-screen or external, that is clearly visible to card holders before the card is inserted, that customers are told the amount of the charge at the time of the transaction and are given the opportunity to cancel without charge. We believe that if cash machine acquirers commit to follow this code in practice it provides a sufficient degree of transparency to consumers.

  The decision to notify customers of a change in status from a non-charging to a charging cash machine rests with the site owner. However, we are in support of any initiatives which increase transparency for customers.

FINANCIAL EXCLUSION AND LOCATION

  Lloyds TSB is the most socially inclusive bank in the UK. Our customer base is more reflective of the UK population than any other bank, with the highest proportion of customers in lower income groups than any of our major competitors. We aim to be as inclusive as possible in our dealings with our customers. Our branches and cash machine are to be found in a wide range of communities, covering both high and low income areas[15]. We were one of the first banks to have an agency agreement with the Post Office, enabling all our customers to withdraw cash, over the counter, free of charge, and we are one of only two high street banks to retain this service for our customers.

  I trust that we have provided the Committee with the information it requires on Lloyds TSB's policy and views on cash machine charges. If the Committee requires further information on any point, please do not hesitate to contact me.

6 December 2004









12   A "remote" Lloyds TSB cash machine is defined as one that is not on Lloyds TSB premises. Back

13   However, customers using a credit card at a Lloyds TSB cash machine may be subject to a cash advance fee levied by their card issuer. Back

14   The latest figures we have available are from Link as at October 2004: of the total Link network of 53,507 cash machines, 32,611 (61%) are non-charging, while 20,896 (39%) levy charges for cash withdrawals. Back

15   With reference to the low-income communities referred to in James Plaskitt's adjournment debate of 27 October 2004, Lloyds TSB currently has two through-the-wall 24-hour access cash machines in the L5 postal district of Liverpool, in addition to an in-branch cash machine which is available during business hours, and a through-the-wall 24-hour access cash machine in the G34 postal district of Glasgow-these machines do not charge for cash withdrawals. Back


 
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