Select Committee on Treasury Minutes of Evidence


Supplementary memorandum submitted by HM Treasury

Q125  Professor's Spencer's evidence on the Tax-GDP ratio

  The chart of tax-GDP ratios provided in Peter Spencer's evidence (Chart 2 on page Ev 82 of the Treasury Committee's report on the 2004 PBR, HC 138) seems to have used money GDP as the denominator for both the total and the non-North Sea tax to GDP ratios. However, if a non-North Sea tax-GDP ratio is calculated, it would be more appropriate to use data and forecasts for non-North Sea money GDP, so that the denominator and numerator are calculated on a consistent basis. The Treasury does not produce forecasts for non-North Sea money GDP and so this series could not be calculated from Treasury sources.

  The tax-GDP ratio published in Table C10 and Chart C3 of Budget 2005 is a total measure rather than one on a non-North Sea basis.

Q156  Budgeting for NHS Foundation Hospitals

  Biennial Spending Reviews set budgets for three years. As part of this process the Department of Health capital DEL is set based on forecasts of total capital spending including all NHS Trusts. As documented in the 2004 Public Expenditure Statistical Analysis (paragraph 2.20), the Department of Health make a transfer from their DEL budget into AME, a classification change representing the Department's estimate of what Foundation Trusts will spend. The amount transferred in 2004-05 was £350 million. As Foundation Trust capital expenditure is still accounted for in Department of Health budgets but as AME, overall Department of Health capital budgets are unchanged.

  Setting the total limits in DEL, as part of the Spending Review process, ensures that total public sector capital is forecast, set, and budgeted for in a rigorous and robust manner. The AME budgeting treatment doesn't, therefore, change the total of capital spending forecast on hospitals, or impact on the fiscal forecasts.

  Neither does it, in effect, change the way capital spending is actually forecast, allocated or spent within the NHS. The amount set aside in AME for Foundation Trusts is in line with what it is estimated at the SR they would have spent had they remained in DEL.

  Classifying Foundation Trusts' capital spending to AME is a way of recognising the fact that Foundation Trusts have greater operational freedom from government.

Q166  Pensioners

  As a result of measures implemented since 1997 the Government is spending £11 billion a year more on pensioners. £8 billion more than if the Government had linked the basic state pension to earnings in the same period. The £200 payment to council tax paying households with someone over 65 will cost £800 million in 2005-06. While free off peak local area bus travel for those aged 60 and over and disabled people in England from April 2006 will cost £420 million in 2006-07 and the abolition of the downrating of benefits after a stay in hospital of more than 52 weeks from April 2006 will cost £65 million in 2006-07.

  The Government introduced State Second Pension (S2P) in 2002 to replace the State Earnings Related Pension scheme (SERPS) to increase the benefits SERPS delivered for low earners and to provide better support for non-earners. Now, 25.9 million people have some cover under the Second State Pension. There are estimated to be 18.7 million people who will gain from S2P in the long term—55% of whom are women. The Pensions Commission report shows clearly the additional benefit that S2P delivers in charts F.8-F.11 in the appendices to the report.

  Clearly State Second Pension will not mature until around 40 years time. It is extremely difficult to make assessments of poverty levels over this sort of time horizon, and such assessments are necessarily dependent on a number of assumptions. In the meantime, Pension Credit is tackling poverty with a minimum weekly income of £109.45 for single pensioners and £167.05 for a couple. The Government is committed to increasing the guarantee element of Pension Credit by earnings next year and until 2007-08, as a result the guarantee element is forecasted to rise to £119 a week for a single pensioner by 2007-08. It is however clear that S2P is delivering substantially more for people on lower incomes than its predecessor did—as the EFSR says, a person with earnings of £12,000 will be able to accrue a weekly S2P of around £70 in today's earnings terms—roughly double what would have been built up under SERPS.

Q167  Eligibility criteria for bus passes for disabled passengers

  The Order enabling free off peak local area bus travel for people aged 60 and over and disabled people will be laid later this year. The eligibility criteria for disabled passengers will remain the same as with the current half fare scheme—that is to say those defined under the Transport Act 2000. Under Section 146 of the Act someone who is blind or partially sighted, profoundly or severely deaf, without speech, has a disability, or has suffered an injury, which has a substantial and long-term adverse effect on his ability to walk, does not have arms or has long-term loss of the use of both arms, has a learning disability, which includes significant impairment of intelligence and social functioning, or cannot obtain a driving licence due to their disability is entitled to concessionary fares. As now, whether individuals meet these criteria will be assessed at a local level, as part of the pass issuing process.

Q179  Life Insurance Companies and taxation of the "orphan assets"

  The aim of the proposed change is to ensure that life insurance companies pay the same rate of Corporation Tax, 30%, as any other company on the profits that are attributable to their shareholders. There is no intention to have any impact on the assets and income that are genuinely needed to pay policyholders.

  Under tax law, a life insurance company must allocate its income from the assets dedicated to its long-term business between pension business and other exempt classes of business on the one hand, and its ordinary (or basic as it is called) life assurance business on the other. It must, under tax law, further divide its income from basic life business between policyholders and shareholders. Income from pension business is taxed at 0%. The policyholders' and shareholders' shares of basic life business are taxed respectively at 20% and 30%. It is therefore important to ensure that the right amounts go into the right categories.

  A life company's "orphan assets" or "inherited estate" have built up over time from amounts that the company has retained after making payments to policyholders. Life companies have wide discretion over the level of their payouts, particularly where the policyholder redeems the policy before its full term. Over time, the amounts available to the life companies over and above what they have paid out have built up. Whilst some of these assets support continuing pension and basic life business, it is clear that a proportion may be in excess of what is needed for those businesses, and therefore is attributable only to the shareholders' interest in the company's assets.

  The purpose of the change is to make sure that the categorisation is correct and properly represents the commercial reality. New FSA rules provide for considerable improvements in transparency as between different classes of business and the assets to support them. On an objective basis, based on the FSA's requirements, there is an excess that should be allocated to shareholders and taxed at 30%. The main issue is to identify the correct amount, and to that end the Inland Revenue has been engaged in detailed and constructive discussions with the industry. The additional tax impact was costed at PBR as £30m per annum, significantly lower than some estimates. The discussions will continue to work up the detail of the measure to ensure that the impact is no greater than this stated aim.

  The Inland Revenue is also discussing with the industry ways in which the rules might make the allocation between exempt pension business and taxable basic life business better reflect the way allocations are made for regulatory purposes and is more appropriate for tax purposes. The aim is to reduce the distortions in the present system that can give inconsistent and unexpected results, both from the standpoint of the companies and of the Exchequer.

Qq181-182  Public Service Pension Schemes—Unfunded Liabilities

  The main public service schemes are those for the civil service, NHS employees, teachers, armed forces, police officers, fire fighters and local government employees. There are separate schemes in some cases covering Scotland and Northern Ireland and around 200 smaller public service schemes.

  In general public service pension liabilities represent pension rights that have been built up during years of service already provided by public servants. They are not a reflection of pension rights likely to be accrued in the future. They do, however, acknowledge that active members are likely to receive salary increases in the future which increase the value of their pensions for the years they have already served.

  The latest estimate of the total liabilities of unfunded public service pension schemes at 31 March 2004 is £460 billion, based on published Resource Accounts figures supplemented by estimates by professional actuaries (in most cases the Government Actuary's Department).

  The sustainability of the public finances is demonstrated by the amount that has to be paid out each year for public service pensions. The Long-Term Public Finances report, published alongside the PBR, sets out that this will rise only from 1.5% of GDP to 2.2% of GDP in 50 years from now.

Q297  Scheme where lenders could use benefit for repayment

  Budget 2005, announces that following responses from private and third sector lenders, the Government will work towards a scheme where, under certain circumstances, lenders could apply for repayment to be made through deduction from benefits, where normal repayment arrangements have broken down.

  The aim of this scheme would be to reduce some of the increased costs and risks of lending to vulnerable groups.

  It is the Government's intention that, as part of the lending process, applicants will be made fully aware of the possibility that lenders may apply to the Government for deductions from benefit in certain cases of default. In addition, the ability to apply for repayment from benefit would be subject to criteria designed to ensure that it is available only where loan products are appropriate and provided in a responsible manner.

  Under the scheme, lenders would apply to Government for deductions from benefit to take place, rather than having direct access to individuals' benefits and there are already similar arrangements for managing arrears of, for example, fuel bills. The scheme would look to replicate the safeguards in place under these arrangements. These safeguards include how much and at what point, deductions can be made from benefits.

  The Government is aware of the views of consumer groups and welcomes their contribution to the development of the scheme. It will work with these groups to ensure that sufficient safeguards are in place.





 
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