Select Committee on Work and Pensions Written Evidence


Memorandum submitted by National Debtline

  1.  Thank you for inviting National Debtline to contribute to your inquiry into the standards of delivery by the DWP of services to minority ethnic customers.

  2.  National Debtline is a telephone and email based advice service for people in debt. We cover England, Wales and Scotland. Advice over the telephone is supported by a range of self help materials in English. Some of our materials are available in a variety of community languages via www.multikulti.org.uk

  3.  We have access to Language Line as a translation service if required. As part of our service we do deal with benefits queries. This is part of our role as money advisers, to highlight ways in which our callers can maximise their income by claiming all the benefits and tax credits they are entitled to. We also give advice on dealing with overpayments of benefit such as whether an overpayment is likely to be recoverable and if so how to repay it.

  4.  However, we operate on a self-help basis which means that callers will receive expert advice on how to tackle their debts and which benefits they may be able to claim but we do not interact directly with the DWP. We encourage callers to contact the DWP themselves and provide them with contact details and information on benefits in leaflet form but we do not contact the DWP on a caller's behalf. We can advise on appeals eg when refused DLA or Incapacity Benefit but cannot attend a tribunal on a caller's behalf. We would refer to a local welfare rights agency in this situation if one could be found in the caller's area.

  5.  Callers are welcome to contact us as many times as they wish for on going advice as their situation changes. However, we are not likely to be able to discover the outcome of a claim for benefit unless a caller makes the effort to inform us. As a consequence we do not have first hand experience of dealing with the DWP ourselves.

  6.  Common queries include delays in claims for Housing Benefit, and difficulties with Tax Credit claims. However, we do not have the monitoring sophistication to identify if those callers reporting difficulties with their benefit claims are disproportionately from BME groups.

  7.  We do not routinely carry out ethnic monitoring as part of the queries to callers to our helpline. We have done this experimentally in the past and found that callers experienced these questions as somewhat intrusive. We do however commission regular independent surveys of samples of our client base. An LSE quality of service questionnaire dated October 2002 found the following client base:
    White 94.3
    Mixed   0.5
    Asian or Asian British   2.6
    Black or Black British   2.6


  8.  We would suggest that by the nature of a telephone advice service this may deter people with English language difficulties from phoning for advice. Although we can offer translation via Language Line, we would seek to refer a caller with English language difficulties to a local face to face agency which would be best placed to make any necessary enquires with third parties on that client's behalf and negotiate with the DWP and creditors as required.

  9.  We would suggest that face to face welfare rights agencies that serve inner cities or specific BME communities would be better placed than ourselves to provide you with the detailed evidence you seek. Whilst we could provide you with an impression based on our experience over the years we are not sure how helpful this would be.

  10.  I will conclude by saying that it would appear that given the complexity of the benefits rules in general and the advent of tax credits and pension credits in particular, anyone with language difficulties or issues of culture that militate against seeking advice or claiming their entitlements is disadvantaged in dealing with the system.

  11.  We would encourage translation of all leaflets into as many community languages as possible. The greater challenge is to ensure adequate distribution of leaflets and posters within the relevant communities and community organisations.

  12.  We would support the call for monitoring of DWP customers as a basis to build on to find out what discrepancies there are in the experience of BME clients in relation to the outcome of benefit claims and general DWP standards of service. Even more worrying is how to monitor those who do not get as far as claiming in the first place.

Meg van Rooyen

5 February 2004





 
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