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House of Commons

 
 

Thursday 30th June 2005

 

Standing Committee Proceedings

 

Standing Committee E

 

Racial and Religious Hatred Bill


 

[Third and fourth Sittings]


 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Mark Prisk

 

Mr Alistair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Withdrawn  8

 

 

Schedule,  page  2,  line  19,  leave out sub-paragraph (3).

 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  34

 

Schedule,  page  2,  line  19,  leave out ‘For subsection (1)(b) substitute—

 

    

‘(b)’ and insert ‘After subsection (1)(b), insert “, or

 

    


 

(c)’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Mark Prisk

 

Not called  9

 

Schedule,  page  2,  line  21,  leave out ‘likely’ and insert ‘intended’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Mark Prisk

 

Not called  15

 

Schedule,  page  2,  line  22,  leave out ‘“are (or it is) likely to”’ and insert ‘“will”.’.

 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  35

 

Schedule,  page  2,  line  22,  leave out ‘“racial or”.’.

 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  53

 

Schedule,  page  2,  line  22,  leave out ‘“or religious”’.


 
 

S.C.E.  Standing Committee Proceedings: 30th June 2005            

8

 

Racial and Religious Hatred Bill, continued

 
 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  48

 

Schedule,  page  2,  line  23,  at end insert ‘or

 

(c)    

having regard to all the circumstances the words, behaviour or

 

material are (or is) liable to be heard or seen by any person in

 

whom they are (or it is) likely to stir up racial hatred.”.’.

 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  54

 

Schedule,  page  2,  line  23,  at end insert ‘or

 

(c)    

having regard to all the circumstances the words, behaviour or

 

material are (or is) intended to be heard or seen by any person in

 

whom they are (or it is) likely to stir up religious hatred.”.’.

 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  71

 

Schedule,  page  2,  line  23,  at end insert ‘or

 

(c)    

he recklessly risks that hatred against a religious group will

 

thereby be stirred up.”.’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Mark Prisk

 

Withdrawn  12

 

Schedule,  page  2,  line  23,  at end insert—

 

    ‘(4)    

After subsection (1) insert—

 

“(1A)  

No word or behaviour, or display of any written material shall be

 

regarded as threatening, abusive or insulting if it solely seeks to

 

impart information as to the religious belief or lack of belief of the

 

maker.”.’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Mark Prisk

 

Negatived on division  23

 

Schedule,  page  2,  line  23,  at end insert—

 

    ‘(4)    

In subsection (3) at end insert “but no power of arrest shall reside with

 

any other person including any person empowered to do so by virtue of

 

section 110 of the Serious and Organised Crime and Police Act 2005.”.’.

 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  47

 

Schedule,  page  2,  line  23,  at end insert—

 

  ‘(3A)    

After subsection (5) insert—

 

“(5A)  

A person who is not shown to have intended to stir up religious

 

hatred is not guilty of an offence under this section if he was not

 

aware that his words or behaviour, or the written material, might

 

incite religious hatred.”.’.


 
 

S.C.E.  Standing Committee Proceedings: 30th June 2005            

9

 

Racial and Religious Hatred Bill, continued

 
 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Mark Prisk

 

Not called  78

 

Schedule,  page  2,  line  23,  at end insert—

 

    ‘(4)    

For subsection (5) substitute—

 

  “(5)  

A person who is not shown to have intended to stir up racial or

 

religious hatred is not guilty of an offence under this section if he

 

did not intend his words or behaviour, or the written material, to be,

 

or was not aware that it might be, threatening, abusive or

 

insulting.”.’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Mark Prisk

 

Mr Alistair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  13

 

Schedule,  page  2,  line  28,  leave out sub-paragraph (3).

 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  36

 

Schedule,  page  2,  line  28,  leave out ‘For subsection (1)(b) substitute—

 

    

“(b)’ and insert ‘After subsection (1)(b), insert “, or

 

    


 

(c)’.

 

Chris Bryant

 

Not called  83

 

Schedule,  page  2,  line  29,  leave out from ‘material’ to end of line 31 and insert

 

‘might be reasonably supposed to stir up racial or religious hatred in any person who

 

might see it.”.’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Mark Prisk

 

Not called  14

 

Schedule,  page  2,  line  29,  leave out ‘likely’ and insert ‘intended’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Mark Prisk

 

Not called  16

 

Schedule,  page  2,  line  30,  leave out ‘is likely to’ and insert ‘will’.

 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  37

 

Schedule,  page  2,  line  30,  leave out ‘racial or’.

 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  55

 

Schedule,  page  2,  line  30,  leave out ‘or religious’.


 
 

S.C.E.  Standing Committee Proceedings: 30th June 2005            

10

 

Racial and Religious Hatred Bill, continued

 
 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  49

 

Schedule,  page  2,  line  31,  at end insert ‘or

 

(c)    

having regard to all the circumstances the material is liable to be

 

heard or seen by any person in whom it is likely to stir up racial

 

hatred.”.’.

 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  56

 

Schedule,  page  2,  line  31,  at end insert ‘or

 

(c)    

having regard to all the circumstances the material is intended to

 

be heard or seen by any person in whom it is likely to stir up

 

religious hatred.”.’.

 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  72

 

Schedule,  page  2,  line  31,  at end insert ‘or

 

(c)    

he recklessly risks that hatred against a religious group will

 

thereby be stirred up.”.’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Mark Prisk

 

Not called  79

 

Schedule,  page  2,  line  31,  at end insert—

 

    ‘(4)    

For subsection (2) substitute—

 

  “(2)  

In proceedings for an offence under this section it is a defence for

 

an accused who is not shown to have intended to stir up racial or

 

religious hatred to prove that he was not aware of the content of the

 

material or did not suspect, and had no reason to suspect, that it was

 

threatening, abusive or insulting.”.’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Mark Prisk

 

Mr Alistair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  17

 

Schedule,  page  3,  line  1,  leave out sub-paragraph (3).

 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  38

 

Schedule,  page  3,  line  1,  leave out ‘For subsection (1)(b) substitute—

 

    

‘(b)’ and insert ‘After subsection (1)(b), insert “, or

 

    


 

(c)’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Mark Prisk

 

Not called  27

 

Schedule,  page  3,  line  3,  leave out ‘likely’ and insert ‘intended’.


 
 

S.C.E.  Standing Committee Proceedings: 30th June 2005            

11

 

Racial and Religious Hatred Bill, continued

 
 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Mark Prisk

 

Not called  28

 

Schedule,  page  3,  line  4,  leave out ‘is likely to’ and insert ‘will’.

 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  39

 

Schedule,  page  3,  line  4,  leave out ‘racial or’.

 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  57

 

Schedule,  page  3,  line  4,  leave out ‘or religious’.

 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  50

 

Schedule,  page  3,  line  5,  at end insert ‘or

 

(c)    

having regard to all the performance is liable to be heard or seen

 

by any person in whom it is likely to stir up racial hatred.”.’.

 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  58

 

Schedule,  page  3,  line  5,  at end insert ‘or

 

(c)    

having regard to all the performance is intended to be heard or

 

seen by any person in whom it is likely to stir up religious

 

hatred.”.’.

 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  73

 

Schedule,  page  3,  line  5,  at end insert ‘or

 

(c)    

he recklessly risks that hatred against a religious group will

 

thereby be stirred up.”.’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Mark Prisk

 

Mr Alistair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  18

 

Schedule,  page  3,  line  10,  leave out sub-paragraph (3).

 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  40

 

Schedule,  page  3,  line  10,  leave out ‘For subsection (1)(b) substitute—

 

    

‘(b)’ and insert ‘After subsection (1)(b), insert “, or

 

    


 

(c)’.


 
 

S.C.E.  Standing Committee Proceedings: 30th June 2005            

12

 

Racial and Religious Hatred Bill, continued

 
 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Mark Prisk

 

Not called  29

 

Schedule,  page  3,  line  11,  leave out ‘likely’ and insert ‘intended’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Mark Prisk

 

Not called  30

 

Schedule,  page  3,  line  12,  leave out ‘is likely to’ and insert ‘will’.

 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  41

 

Schedule,  page  3,  line  13,  leave out ‘racial or’.

 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  59

 

Schedule,  page  3,  line  13,  leave out ‘or religious’.

 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  51

 

Schedule,  page  3,  line  13,  at end insert ‘or

 

(c)    

having regard to all the circumstances the recording is liable to

 

be heard or seen by any person in whom it is likely to stir up

 

racial hatred.”.’.

 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  60

 

Schedule,  page  3,  line  13,  at end insert ‘or

 

(c)    

having regard to all the circumstances the recording is intended

 

to be heard or seen by any person in whom it is likely to stir up

 

religious hatred.”.’.

 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  74

 

Schedule,  page  3,  line  13,  at end insert ‘or

 

(c)    

he recklessly risks that hatred against a religious group will

 

thereby be stirred up.”.’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Mark Prisk

 

Not called  80

 

Schedule,  page  3,  line  13,  at end insert—

 

    ‘(4)    

For subsection (3) substitute—

 

  “(3)  

In proceedings for an offence under this section it is a defence for

 

an accused who is not shown to have intended to stir up racial or

 

religious hatred to prove that he was not aware of the content of the

 

recording or did not suspect, and had no reason to suspect, that it

 

was threatening, abusive or insulting.”.’.


 
 

S.C.E.  Standing Committee Proceedings: 30th June 2005            

13

 

Racial and Religious Hatred Bill, continued

 
 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Mark Prisk

 

Mr Alistair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  19

 

Schedule,  page  3,  line  18,  leave out sub-paragraph (3).

 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  42

 

Schedule,  page  3,  line  18,  leave out ‘For subsection (1)(b) substitute—

 

    

‘(b)’ and insert ‘After subsection (1)(b), insert “, or

 

    


 

(c)’.

 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  43

 

Schedule,  page  3,  line  21,  leave out ‘racial or’.

 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  61

 

Schedule,  page  3,  line  21,  leave out ‘or religious’.

 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  52

 

Schedule,  page  3,  line  21,  at end insert ‘or

 

(c)    

having regard to all the circumstances the programme is liable to

 

be heard or seen by any person in whom it is likely to stir up

 

racial hatred.”.’.

 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  62

 

Schedule,  page  3,  line  21,  at end insert ‘or

 

(c)    

having regard to all the circumstances the programme is intended

 

to be heard or seen by any person in whom it is likely to stir up

 

religious hatred.”.’.

 

Mr Alastair Carmichael

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  75

 

Schedule,  page  3,  line  21,  at end insert ‘or

 

(c)    

he recklessly risks that hatred against a religious group will

 

thereby be stirred up.”.’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Mark Prisk

 

Not called  81

 

Schedule,  page  3,  line  21,  at end insert—

 

    ‘(4)    

For subsection (6) substitute—


 
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