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House of Commons

 
 

Wednesday 9th November 2005

 

Report Stage Proceedings

 

Terrorism Bill, As Amended


 

Mr Robert Marshall-Andrews

 

Alan Simpson

 

Jeremy Corbyn

 

Mrs Linda Riordan

 

John McDonnell

 

Mr Robert N. Wareing

 

Ms Katy Clark

 

Kelvin Hopkins

 

Dr Ian Gibson

 

Frank Dobson

 

Not selected  65

 

Page  21,  line  24,  leave out Clauses 23 and 24.

 


 

Mr Secretary Clarke

 

Agreed to  51

 

Page  22,  line  7  [Clause  23],  leave out ‘special’.

 

Mr Secretary Clarke

 

Agreed to  52

 

Page  22,  line  10  [Clause  23],  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

In paragraph 36 (applications for extension or further extension), omit the words

 

“to a judicial authority” in sub-paragraph (1), and after that sub-paragraph

 

insert—

 

“(1A)  

The person to whom an application under sub-paragraph (1) may be

 

made is—

 

(a)    

in the case of an application falling within sub-paragraph

 

(1B), a judicial authority; and

 

(b)    

in any other case, a senior judge.

 

    (1B)  

An application for the extension or further extension of a period falls

 

within this sub-paragraph if—

 

(a)    

the grant of the application otherwise than in accordance with

 

sub-paragraph (3AA)(b) would extend that period to a time

 

that is no more than fourteen days after the relevant time; and

 

(b)    

no application has previously been made to a senior judge in

 

respect of that period.”’.


 
 

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Terrorism Bill, continued

 
 

Mr William Cash

 

Not selected  17

 

Page  22,  line  10  [Clause  23],  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

In sub-paragraph (3) of paragraph 33, after “hearing”, insert “provided

 

that the authority is satisfied, following representations made by a

 

Minister of the Crown, that there are overriding reasons of national

 

security.”.’.

 

Mr William Cash

 

Not selected  18

 

Page  22,  line  10  [Clause  23],  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

In sub-paragraph (4) of paragraph 34, after “paragraph”, insert “provided

 

that the authority is satisfied, following representations made by a

 

Minister of the Crown, that there are overriding reasons of national

 

security.”.’.

 

Mr Secretary Clarke

 

Agreed to  53

 

Page  22,  line  11  [Clause  23],  leave out ‘paragraph 36’ and insert ‘that paragraph’.

 

Mr Secretary Clarke

 

Agreed to  54

 

Page  22,  line  13  [Clause  23],  leave out ‘new specified period’ and insert ‘period by

 

which the specified period is extended or further extended’.

 

Mr Secretary Clarke

 

Negatived on division  55

 

Page  22,  line  19  [Clause  23],  leave out ‘three months’ and insert ‘ninety days’.

 

Mr David Winnick

 

Mr Sadiq Khan

 

Mr Chris Mullin

 

Keith Vaz

 

Dr Desmond Turner

 

Mr David Hamilton

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

David Davis

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Mr Edward Garnier

 

David Maclean

 

Mark Lazarowicz

 

Agreed to on division  1

 

Page  22,  line  19  [Clause  23],  leave out ‘three months’ and insert ‘28 days’.

 

As an Amendment to Mr David Winnick’s proposed Amendment (No. 1) (Page 22, line

 

19 [Clause 23]):—

 

Mr Frank Field

 

Not selected  (a)

 

Leave out ‘28’ and insert ‘90’.


 
 

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Terrorism Bill, continued

 
 

Janet Anderson

 

Steve McCabe

 

Jim Dowd

 

Kali Mountford

 

Not called  33

 

Page  22,  line  19  [Clause  23],  leave out ‘three months’ and insert ‘60 days’.

 

Mr Secretary Clarke

 

Agreed to  56

 

Page  22,  line  28  [Clause  23],  after ‘authority’, insert ‘or senior judge’.

 

Mr Secretary Clarke

 

Agreed to  57

 

Page  22,  line  33  [Clause  23],  after ‘authority’, insert ‘or senior judge’.

 

Mr Secretary Clarke

 

Agreed to  58

 

Page  22,  line  33  [Clause  23],  leave out ‘special’.

 

Mr Mark Oaten

 

Mr Alistair Carmichael

 

Mr David Heath

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Lynne Jones

 

Not called  29

 

Page  22,  line  36  [Clause  23],  at end insert—

 

‘(3AB)    

Where the new specified period will end more than 14 days after the relevant

 

time—

 

(a)    

the specified period may only be extended—

 

(i)    

pending the result of an examination or analysis which is to be or

 

is being carried out with a view to obtaining relevant evidence, or

 

(ii)    

for the purpose of obtaining relevant evidence from outside the

 

United Kingdom or from records within the United Kingdom

 

which cannot reasonably be obtained without such an extension

 

of the specified period;

 

(b)    

the specified period may only be extended if the judicial authority is

 

satisfied that there is no reasonable possibility of the detainee being

 

charged immediately with another offence relating to terrorism or a

 

terrorist act;

 

(c)    

the judicial authority must approve the nature of any further questioning

 

of the detainee during the new specified period.’.

 

Mr Secretary Clarke

 

Agreed to  59

 

Page  22,  line  36  [Clause  23],  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

In sub-paragraph (4) of that paragraph (application of paragraphs 30(3), and 31 to

 

34), at the end insert “but, in relation to an application made by virtue of sub-

 

paragraph (1A)(b) to a senior judge, as if—

 

(a)    

references to a judicial authority were references to a senior judge; and

 

(b)    

references to the judicial authority in question were references to the

 

senior judge in question.”

 

( )    

In sub-paragraph (5) of that paragraph, after “authority” insert “or senior judge”.

 

( )    

After sub-paragraph (6) of that paragraph insert—


 
 

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Terrorism Bill, continued

 
 

  “(7)  

In this paragraph and paragraph 37 ‘senior judge’ means a judge of the

 

High Court or of the Court of Session.”’.

 

Mr Secretary Clarke

 

Agreed to  60

 

Page  22,  line  45  [Clause  23],  after ‘authority’, insert ‘or senior judge’.

 


 

Mr Secretary Clarke

 

Not moved  61

 

Page  23,  line  6  [Clause  23],  at end insert—

 

‘(6A)    

Paragraph 36 has effect in relation to any further extension for a period beginning

 

one year or more after the commencement of this section as if, in sub-paragraph

 

(3)(b) of that paragraph, for “ninety days” there were substituted “fourteen days”.

 

(6B)    

The Secretary of State may by order—

 

(a)    

repeal subsection (6A); or

 

(b)    

make such modifications of paragraph 36 as he considers appropriate in

 

consequence of his not having made an order repealing that subsection.

 

(6C)    

If when the period of one year after the commencement of this section ends—

 

(a)    

an individual is being detained by virtue of a further extension under

 

paragraph 36;

 

(b)    

the period for which his further detention is authorised ends more than

 

fourteen days after the relevant time (within the meaning of that

 

paragraph); and

 

(c)    

no order repealing subsection (6A) has been made,

 

    

the person with custody of that person must release him (if that fourteen days has

 

already expired) immediately and (if it has not) at the end of that fourteen days.

 

(6D)    

An order under subsection (6B) has to be made by statutory instrument and, in the

 

case of an order repealing subsection (6A), may not be made more than one year

 

after the commencement of this section.

 

(6E)    

The Secretary of State must not make an order containing (with or without other

 

provision) any provision authorised by subsection (6B) unless a draft of the order

 

has been laid before Parliament and approved by a resolution of each House.’.

 

Rob Marris

 

Lynne Jones

 

Not called  63

 

Page  23,  line  6  [Clause  23],  at end insert—

 

‘(6A)    

After paragraph 37 insert—

 

“37A (1)  

Any detained person who has been released—

 

(a)    

in accordance with the provisions of paragraph 37 having

 

been detained for not less than 14 days, or

 

(b)    

owing to the effluxion of time

 

            

(“the ex-detainee”), shall be entitled to claim full compensation for his

 

financial losses resulting from his detention.

 

      (2)  

The Secretary of State shall, within 3 months of the coming into force

 

of section 23 of the Terrorism Act 2005, make regulations establishing

 

a compensation scheme for ex-detainees.


 
 

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Terrorism Bill, continued

 
 

      (3)  

Regulations under sub-paragraph (2) shall be made by statutory

 

instrument and shall be subject to annulment in pursuance of a

 

resolution of either House of Parliament.”.’.

 


 

new clauses

 

Extension of period of detention by judicial authority: duration

 

Mr David Winnick

 

David Davis

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Mr Edward Garnier

 

David Maclean

 

Added  nc1

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘(1)    

The provisions of section 23 of this Act shall remain in force until one year after

 

their commencement and shall then expire unless continued in force by an order

 

under subsection (2) below.

 

(2)    

The Secretary of State may by order made by statutory instrument provide—

 

(a)    

that all or any of those provisions which are in force shall continue in

 

force for a period not exceeding twelve months from the coming into

 

opertion of the order; or

 

(b)    

that all or any of those provisions which are for the time being in force

 

shall cease to be in force.

 

(3)    

No order shall be made under subsection (2) above unless a draft of the order has

 

been laid before and approved by a resolution of each House of Parliament.’.

 


 

Discretion of judicial authority in relation to national security

 

Mr William Cash

 

Not selected  nc3

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘A judicial authority may only extend a period of detention under sections 23 or

 

24 of this Act when that authority is satisfied, following representations made by

 

a Minister of the Crown, that there are overriding reasons of national security.’.

 



 
 

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Terrorism Bill, continued

 
 

Disapplication of Human Rights Act 1998

 

Mr William Cash

 

Not called  nc4

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘Sections 23 and 24 of this Act shall take effect notwithstanding the Human

 

Rights Act 1998 (c. 42).’.

 


 

Definition of ‘judicial authority’

 

Mr William Cash

 

Not selected  nc5

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘For the purposes of sections 23 and 24 of this Act, “judicial authority” shall

 

mean, in England, Wales and Northern Ireland, a person designated by the Lord

 

Chancellor only where he is satisfied that the judge or magistrate in question has

 

appropriate experience of determining terrorist cases and shall include judges of

 

the Crown Court and High Court.’.

 


 

Detention under the Terrorism Acts

 

Mr William Cash

 

Not selected  nc6

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘(1)    

Where, under the Terrorism Act 2000, an Act amending that Act, or this Act, a

 

person is in police detention or is otherwise detained, he shall have the right to

 

apply for a writ of habeas corpus, or other prerogative remedy and to a fair trial

 

in accordance with due process and the rule of law.

 

(2)    

Subsection (1) shall have effect notwithstanding the Human Rights Act 1998 (c.

 

42).’.

 


 

Duration of section 23

 

Mr Mark Oaten

 

Mr Alistair Carmichael

 

Mr David Heath

 

Lynne Featherstone

 

Not called  nc7

 

To move the following Clause:—


 
 

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Terrorism Bill, continued

 
 

‘The provisions of section 23 of this Act shall remain in force until one year after

 

their commencement and shall then expire.’.

 


 

Stop and search

 

Mr Michael Meacher

 

Not called  nc8

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘(1)    

Part V of the Terrorism Act 2000 (counter terrorist powers) is amended as

 

follows.

 

(2)    

In section 44 (authorisations to stop and search)—

 

(a)    

for subsection (3), for the words from “if” to the end of that subsection

 

substitute “if the person giving it reasonably believes it to be necessary

 

for the prevention of acts of terrorism”;

 

(b)    

after subsection (3), insert—

 

“(3A)    

The area or place specified in the authorisation, within which the

 

power conferred by the authorisation may be exercised, must be

 

no greater than is proportionate to the nature of the specific

 

threat”;

 

(c)    

for subsection (4)—

 

    

after “given” insert “for a period specified in the authorisation

 

not exceeding 24 hours”;

 


 

for subsection (4)(a) to subsection (4)(d), omit “the whole or”;

 

(d)    

for subsections (4A), (4B) and (4BA), after “given” insert “for a period

 

specified in the authorisation not exceeding 24 hours”;

 

(e)    

after subsection (4C) insert—

 

“(4D)    

An authorisation may be given for a period specified in the

 

authorisation not exceeding 28 days by the Secretary of State,

 

who must lay the authorisation before both Houses of Parliament

 

as soon as reasonably practicable.”;

 

(f)    

after subsection (5), insert—

 

“(6)    

An authorisation must be publicised within 7 days of it being

 

given.

 

(7)    

Publicity under subsection (6) above shall be effected in such

 

manner as the Secretary of State considers appropriate for the

 

purpose of bringing the information to the attention of the

 

public.”.

 

(3)    

In section 46 (duration of authorisation)—

 

(a)    

for subsection (1), substitute—

 

“(1)    

Where an authorisation has been given by a person listed in

 

section 44(4), if it is considered by the person who gave the

 

authorisation, or a person who could have given it, that it is

 

necessary to do so having regard to the nature of the specific

 

threat of terrorism, he may apply to a High Court judge for an


 
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