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Committee of the whole House Proceedings: 30th January 2006  

298

 

Government of Wales Bill, continued

 
 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 


 

Mrs Cheryl Gillan

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

David Mundell

 

Mr Patrick McLoughlin

 

Mrs Theresa Villiers

 

Not called  262

 

Clause  136,  page  73,  line  39,  after ‘accordance’, insert ‘with subsection (1A) and’.

 

Mrs Cheryl Gillan

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

David Mundell

 

Mr Patrick McLoughlin

 

Mrs Theresa Villiers

 

Not called  263

 

Clause  136,  page  73,  line  39,  at end insert—

 

‘(1A)    

The accounts must include projected budget figures and outturn figures.’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 

Clauses 137 and 138 Agreed to.

 


 

Mrs Cheryl Gillan

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

David Mundell

 

Mr Patrick McLoughlin

 

Mrs Theresa Villiers

 

Not called  265

 

Clause  139,  page  75,  line  43,  leave out ‘may’ and insert ‘must’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Mrs Cheryl Gillan

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

David Mundell

 

Mr Patrick McLoughlin

 

Mrs Theresa Villiers

 

Not selected  266

 

Page  76,  line  2,  leave out Clause 140.

 

Clause Agreed to.


 
 

Committee of the whole House Proceedings: 30th January 2006  

299

 

Government of Wales Bill, continued

 
 

Clauses 141 to 144 Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Adam Price

 

Hywel Williams

 

Not selected  115

 

Schedule  8,  page  127,  line  30,  at end insert—

 

    ‘(5)  

Any expenditure of the Auditor General, so far as not met out of sums received

 

and used in accordance with section 119(2) and sub-paragraph (3) above, shall

 

be payable out of the Welsh Consolidated Fund.’.

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Adam Price

 

Hywel Williams

 

Not called  116

 

Schedule  8,  page  128,  line  21,  at end insert—

 

  ‘(3A)  

The estimates laid under sub-paragraph (3) for each financial year shall form

 

the basis of the budget motion to be moved under section 124 in respect of the

 

Auditor General.’.

 

Schedule Agreed to.

 

Clause 145 to 148 Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Hywel Williams

 

Adam Price

 

Not called  41

 

Schedule  9,  page  136,  line  33,  at end insert ‘or the Assembly’.

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Hywel Williams

 

Adam Price

 

Not called  42

 

Schedule  9,  page  140,  line  14,  after ‘Counsel General’, insert ‘or the Assembly’.

 

Schedule Agreed to.

 

Clauses 149 to 159 Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Secretary Hain

 

Agreed to  244

 

Schedule  10,  page  160,  leave out line 2 and insert ‘for sub-paragraph (4) substitute—


 
 

Committee of the whole House Proceedings: 30th January 2006  

300

 

Government of Wales Bill, continued

 
 

    “(4)  

Before laying before the Assembly with modifications an estimate submitted

 

in accordance with sub-paragraph (2), the committee or committees must—

 

(a)    

consult the Ombudsman, and

 

(b)    

take into account any representations which the Ombudsman may

 

make.”.’.

 

Schedule, as amended, Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Frank Field

 

Not selected  279

 

Clause  160,  page  90,  line  4,  at end add—

 

‘(8)    

Save for subsection (2) above and notwithstanding any other subsection no part

 

of this Act shall come into force until legislation has been passed providing for

 

the creation of a National Assembly for England (however named) with at least

 

the same powers and status as the National Assembly for Wales; such a National

 

Assembly for England (however named) either to be separately elected or to be

 

constituted by the Members of Parliament for constituencies in England sitting as

 

the National Assembly for England (however named).’.

 

Mr Frank Field

 

Not selected  280

 

Clause  160,  page  90,  line  4,  at end add—

 

‘(8)    

Part 3 of this Act shall not come into force until legislation has been passed

 

providing for the creation of a National Assembly for England (however named)

 

with at least the same powers and status as the National Assembly for Wales; such

 

a National Assembly for England (however named) either to be separately elected

 

or to be constituted by the Members of Parliament for constituencies in England

 

sitting as the National Assembly for England (however named).’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Secretary Hain

 

Agreed to  245

 

Clause  161,  page  90,  line  11,  at end insert—

 

‘(3A)    

A statutory instrument containing an order under subsection (2) is subject to

 

annulment in pursuance of a resolution of either House of Parliament.’.

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 



 
 

Committee of the whole House Proceedings: 30th January 2006  

301

 

Government of Wales Bill, continued

 
 

Mrs Cheryl Gillan

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr David Mundell

 

Mr Patrick McLoughlin

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Hywel Williams

 

Not called  49

 

Schedule  11,  page  161,  line  22,  leave out paragraphs 4 and 5.

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Hywel Williams

 

Adam Price

 

Not called  128

 

Schedule  11,  page  162,  line  1,  leave out paragraph 5.

 

Mr Secretary Hain

 

Agreed to  246

 

Schedule  11,  page  166,  line  1,  leave out ‘members of that Assembly as those

 

members’ and insert ‘persons who at that time held office as an Assembly Secretary and

 

are members of that Assembly as those persons’.

 

Mr Secretary Hain

 

Agreed to  247

 

Schedule  11,  page  166,  line  9,  at end insert ‘who immediately before the beginning

 

of the initial period held office as an Assembly Secretary’.

 

Mr Secretary Hain

 

Agreed to  248

 

Schedule  11,  page  167,  line  39,  leave out sub-paragraph (3).

 

Mr Secretary Hain

 

Agreed to  249

 

Schedule  11,  page  178,  line  12,  at end insert—

 

‘Transfers of Assembly functions: laying of reports and statements

 

33A(1)  

This paragraph applies where—

 

(a)    

a function to make or receive a report or statement was transferred to,

 

or made exercisable by, the Assembly constituted by the Government

 

of Wales Act 1998 (c. 38) by an Order in Council under section 22 of

 

that Act,

 

(b)    

the function has been transferred to, or made exercisable, by the Welsh

 

Ministers, the First Minister, the Counsel General or the Assembly

 

Commission by or by virtue of paragraph 28 or 29, and

 

(c)    

immediately before the transfer of the function to that Assembly, any

 

enactment made provision (“provision for Parliamentary laying”) for

 

a report or statement made or received in the exercise of the function

 

to be laid before Parliament or either House of Parliament by the

 

person making or receiving it.

 

      (2)  

The provision for Parliamentary laying applies to the exercise of the function

 

by the Welsh Ministers, the First Minister, the Counsel General or the

 

Assembly Commission as if it required the report or statement to be laid before

 

the Assembly instead of before Parliament or either House of Parliament.


 
 

Committee of the whole House Proceedings: 30th January 2006  

302

 

Government of Wales Bill, continued

 
 

      (3)  

In this paragraph and paragraph 33B, references to a report or statement

 

include any other document (except one containing subordinate legislation).

 

33B(1)  

This paragraph applies where—

 

(a)    

a function to make or receive a report or statement was conferred or

 

imposed on the Assembly constituted by the Government of Wales

 

Act 1998 (c. 38) by a pre-commencement enactment,

 

(b)    

the function has been transferred to the Welsh Ministers, the First

 

Minister, the Counsel General or the Assembly Commission by or by

 

virtue of paragraph 28 or 29, and

 

(c)    

immediately before the transfer, any enactment made provision for a

 

report or statement made or received in the exercise of the function (or

 

the matter contained in such a report or statement) to be published by

 

that Assembly.

 

      (2)  

A copy of the report or statement must be laid before the Assembly after it has

 

been made or received.’.

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Adam Price

 

Hywel Williams

 

Not called  117

 

Schedule  11,  page  182,  line  48,  at end insert—

 

‘39A      

At the end of the initial period the members of staff of the Auditor General

 

appointed under section 92 of the Government of Wales Act 1998 are taken to

 

have been appointed under Schedule 8, paragraph 7, and the repeal of section

 

92 does not break the continuity of employment.’.

 

Schedule, as amended, Agreed to.

 

Clause 162 Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Secretary Hain

 

Agreed to  250

 

Schedule  12,  page  193,  line  33,  leave out from ‘paragraph’ to end of line 35 and

 

insert ‘15(3), the words “to it”.’.

 

Schedule, as amended, Agreed to.

 

Clauses 163 to 165 Agreed to.

 



 
 

Committee of the whole House Proceedings: 30th January 2006  

303

 

Government of Wales Bill, continued

 
 

New Clauses

 

Consultation about representation in European Union institutions

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Hywel Williams

 

Adam Price

 

Not called  nc1

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘(1)    

Within three months of the first Assembly election provided for under this Act,

 

the Secretary of State for Wales must publish a document making proposals for

 

increasing the representation of Wales in the UK Government’s representation

 

within European Union institutions, and consult the Assembly about that

 

document.

 

(2)    

Within six months of the first Assembly election provided for under this Act, Her

 

Majesty’s Government shall consider and make decisions concerning increasing

 

the representation of Wales in the UK Government’s representation within

 

European Union institutions.’.

 


 

Scheme for parliamentary legislative provisions

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Hywel Williams

 

Adam Price

 

Not selected  nc2

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘(1)    

The Secretary of State shall draw up and publish a scheme setting out the

 

arrangements Her Majesty’s Government proposes to make in order to provide

 

definitions of the scope within the provisions of Government bills introduced into

 

Parliament for Assembly Measures to be introduced in accordance with sections

 

92 and 93.

 

(2)    

The scheme referred to in subsection (1) shall include guidance given to Ministers

 

regarding—

 

(a)    

the scope within legislation for matters to be determined by the Assembly

 

or Welsh Ministers;

 

(b)    

arrangements for making it readily apparent within legislation or any

 

explanatory notes published by Ministers what the scope is for matters to

 

be determined by the Assembly or Welsh Ministers.

 

(3)    

The Secretary of State shall amend or revise the scheme referred to in subsection

 

(1) from time to time as he considers appropriate.

 

(4)    

The Secretary of State shall lay before the Assembly any scheme, or amendments

 

to a scheme, made under this section.

 

(5)    

No scheme shall be made, amended or revised under this section unless the

 

Assembly has first been consulted on such a scheme or amendments.’.

 



 
 

Committee of the whole House Proceedings: 30th January 2006  

304

 

Government of Wales Bill, continued

 
 

Public expenditure commission

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Hywel Williams

 

Adam Price

 

Not selected  nc3

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘(1)    

Within three months of Royal Assent to this Act, Her Majesty’s Government shall

 

establish a commission to make recommendations concerning the future

 

allocation of public expenditure among England, Scotland, Wales and Northern

 

Ireland.

 

(2)    

The commission referred to in subsection (1) shall be referred to as “the Public

 

Expenditure Commission”.

 

(3)    

The Public Expenditure Commission shall include two members appointed by

 

each of the following—

 

(a)    

the Scottish Parliament;

 

(b)    

the National Assembly for Wales;

 

(c)    

the Northern Ireland Assembly.

 

(4)    

The Public Expenditure Commission shall include four members appointed by

 

the House of Commons.

 

(5)    

The Public Expenditure Commission shall publish, within one year following the

 

establishment of the commission, a report setting out recommendations

 

concerning the future allocation of government expenditure among England,

 

Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

 

(6)    

The Public Expenditure Commission may consider and make recommendations

 

concerning the geographical allocation of public expenditure within England.

 

(7)    

The Public Expenditure Commission shall be guided in its considerations by the

 

principle that the geographical allocation of public expenditure should be

 

governed by the geographical distribution of the need for public expenditure.

 

(8)    

The Public Expenditure Commission shall commission statistical research to

 

enable it to carry out its duty under subsection (6).’.

 


 

Refusal to lay draft statutory instrument

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Hywel Williams

 

Adam Price

 

Not called  nc4

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘In the event of approval of a draft statutory instrument by the Assembly, as

 

specified in section 94 (5) (a), followed by a refusal to lay that draft statutory

 

instrument before each House of Parliament, as specified in section 94 (7) (b), the

 

Counsel General or the Assembly may refer to the Supreme Court for decision

 

the question whether the Secretary of State’s decision to refuse to lay the draft

 

statutory instrument was made reasonably in the circumstances and intra vires.’.

 



 
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