Select Committee on Armed Forces Written Evidence


Memorandum from Mrs Norma Langford

  I would firstly like to introduce myself; I am Norma Langford, my son Corporal Ian Holt died in Belize in 1991 in a non-combat situation. In December 2004 along with other members of Deepcut & Beyond I gave evidence to the Defence Select Committee on a Duty of Care. Since then I have assisted Lynn Farr in the setting up of Daniel's Trust (fighting against bullying in the armed forces) and I also assist Elaine Higgins, the steering group member for overseas in the Deepcut & Beyond Campaign.

I would like to add to the evidence already submitted by Daniel's Trust and Deepcut & Beyond, by relating to you my own concerns on the investigation of deaths, complaints and grievances of service personnel overseas.

When a death occurs overseas the local civilian police do not always get involved and the investigation is left to the Special Investigation Branch (SIB) and/or the Military Police (MP). This in itself is the army investigating the army. Even if the incident is investigated by civilian police the family may never see or have access to their findings of the investigation. My own personal experience is never having known what happened to the third party involved in my sons' death. Another problem that has risen in overseas deaths is inadequate documentation and I believe these are examples that show the very necessary need for an Independent Oversight of the armed forces. An Independent System by dealing with the above in overseas camps could in my opinion compliment the chain of command allowing them to carry on with operational duties.

Another problem I have encountered concerning personnel overseas is parents of young soldiers not knowing where to go or who to speak to when the recruit calls home and asks for help. Sometimes the situations are quite grave and parents have had nothing solved by telephoning someone in the camp. The distance between the parents and young person emphasises the urgency of getting in touch with someone who can swiftly and efficiently deal with the situation. If there was an Independent System in action that had no "off-limit areas" in the UK and on overseas bases the above problems could become a thing of the past. With an Independent System being in place I feel the majority of grievances and complaints will be reported directly by the recruit, because the genuine fear that some recruits have of a repercussion of reporting an incident would have been alleviated by using an Independent System.

Something I came across first hand is, recruits induction not being informative enough to know who to go to and who to see on camp if they have a problem. The recruits in question were young men just finishing their training and ready to face the world. My concern here is if they did not know who could help them in a training camp, how would they cope overseas. With a proper induction into the working mechanism of an Independent Complaints System the continuity would carry through their entire career no matter where they were stationed.

February 2006





 
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