Select Committee on Environmental Audit Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 620-625)

21 NOVEMBER 2005

JONATHON PORRITT CBE AND MRS SARA EPPEL

  Q620 Mr Ellwood: Then it does beg the question as to why The Times led with the article today?

  Mr Porritt: I am sorry to say, I have not read that yet, so I do not know.

  Q621 Mr Ellwood: In your own study that you are doing on nuclear energy, which you broke down, are you actually looking at nuclear energy as a whole or are you considering the different types of reactors you were critical about, the British reactors, but, for example, the Canadian systems versus the South African?

  Mr Porritt: We are looking at all the new technologies coming forward.

  Q622 Mr Ellwood: Comparing one versus another?

  Mr Porritt: Up to a point.

  Q623 David Howarth: I will ask just one supplementary to that and then one question of my own. Is the work that you going to do going to be comparative across technologies and are you going to include any discussion of carbon capture and carbon sequestration?

  Mr Porritt: Not as such. We are very alert to the growing interest in carbon capture and sequestration. I feel actually it is a very important area of debate, perhaps an excess of enthusiasm in the minds of some people as there is an excess of enthusiasm for nuclear. Clearly, clean coal technologies, if I can put it like that, have to be set alongside nuclear and other supply options as part of the energy mix that we are going to need for the future. It is just we hate the way this debate is phrased: it is not just nuclear versus renewables. We want to do a trade-off here, it is nuclear versus renewables versus cleaner forms of fossil fuels, because those three things have to be considered together.

  Q624 David Howarth: To ask you about the present position on nuclear waste, you mentioned that, I think it was, as the first of your items of the new work, what is the existing position of the Commission on nuclear waste?

  Mr Porritt: The existing position is remarkably similar to the position of the Government as we understand it, which is that it would be unacceptable to bring forward ambitious new plans for a new generation of nuclear power stations until the problems associated with the disposal of nuclear waste had been resolved. That is the very strong position taken by the Royal Commission on Environmental Pollution. As we understand it, various ministers have also indicated, at different points in the past, that they would be extremely reluctant to impose further legacy costs on future generations without some "solution" to those problems being available to people.

  Q625 David Howarth: That is a technical solution and not just a financial solution of people being required to save money over a period of time?

  Mr Porritt: Indeed, it has to be both.

  Colin Challen: Thank you both very much for being very generous with your time. It has been very useful. Thank you.





 
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