Select Committee on Liaison Minutes of Evidence


Letter from the Prime Minister to the Chairman of the Committee

  I promised to write with more detail on a number of points following my appearance before the Liaison Committee on 22 November.

  I attach a copy of Lord Birt's letter of appointment—copies of which are available in the Libraries of the House.

  Kevin Barron asked about the pension rights of National Health Service employees who move into the independent sector.

  In general, NHS employees who are compulsorily transferred to a private sector employer cease to be entitled to membership of the NHS pension scheme. However, some private sector employers do operate the NHS pension scheme for those employees who are compulsorily transferred in from the NHS. These employers run the pension scheme under a "direction" given by the Secretary of State for Health. Such organisations work to support the provision of health services and they will usually be a not for profit company or a charitable organisation.

  The Transfer of Undertakings Protection of Employment (TUPE) Regulations offer important safeguards to employees where the transfer is compulsory, but the employer does not have "direction" status. Under the TUPE arrangements, an assessment is required as to whether the pension arrangements being offered to employees by their new employer are "broadly comparable" to those provided by their existing employers. Staff then have a choice: they can either choose to join the new employer's pension scheme for future service only and leave accrued rights in the NHS scheme; or, they can opt to transfer their entire NHS pension rights.

  John Whittingdale asked about the advice given by the Home Office to Essex Police Force and Authority on which options should be progressed as part of force restructuring.

  The Home Secretary set out the design criteria for force restructuring in his letter of 22 September to Chief Officers in England and Wales and Chairs of Police Authorities in England and Wales. These criteria were based upon considerations for restructuring in the report Closing the Gap by Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabularies. The criteria included size, mix of capability in reduction and risk, criminal markets, geography, co-terminosity, identity, clarity of command and control accountability, performance and costs and efficiency.

  Essex Police Force and Authority submitted the following options in its joint submission at the end of October:

    (i)  A Strategic Eastern Regional force. A merger of all six forces in the eastern region into one strategic force.

    (ii)  A two strategic force option for the region that consists of an East/West split with Essex merging with Suffolk and Norfolk.

    (iii)  A two strategic force option for the region that consists of a North/South split with Essex merging with Hertfordshire and Bedfordshire.

    (iv)  A stand alone option—Essex Police Force as they are now.

  The Home Office provided feedback on 9 November. The aim of the feedback was to provide a steer to forces as to which options were seen as viable and as such would benefit from being progressed further.

  The Essex Police Force and Authority were advised that they should seek to further develop options (i), (ii) and (iii) as they met the design criteria for the development of strategic forces. The same advice was provided to other forces and authorities in the eastern region.

  I should stress, however, that the Home Office made clear in the feedback that while it had highlighted the above options as suitable for further progression, it was ultimately a matter for police authorities to determine which options they submitted in their final report by 23 December. No decisions have been made. As such, the Home Office remain open to all options for which a compelling case can be made. This means that Essex Police Force and Authority, if they so wish, can further develop and submit a standalone proposal in December.

  Andrew Dismore asked for details about the memoranda of understanding with other countries and deportation on national security grounds.

  Twenty-three people have been detained on national security grounds pending deportation to countries with which we have agreed Memoranda of Understanding (MoUs), or with which we are seeking MoUs. Four of them have been released on bail, and so the number currently in detention is 19. We have signed MoUs with Jordan and Libya and are pursuing such arrangements with both Algeria and Lebanon and a number of other countries in North Africa and the Middle East.

  I cannot give any more specific information at present as this could be used to identify the detainees, breaching Court Anonymity orders.

  Malcolm Bruce asked about the process for people detained by UK forces in Iraq.

  UK forces in Multi-National Division (South East), which is the UK's area of operations, routinely detain Iraqis. They carry out these detention operations with the Iraqi Security Forces and, when necessary, on their own.

  People detained who are suspected of criminal offences are transferred into Iraqi custody as soon as possible for prosecution in the Iraqi judicial system. We intern those judged to be an imperative threat to security in our Divisional Temporary Detention Facility (DTDF) in Shaibah, as we are authorised to do by UN mandate and Iraqi law.

  Before the Shaibah detention facility was opened in December 2003 the UK did not have a detention facility in Iraq. Prisoners taken into custody by the UK were transferred into US custody at Camp Bucca in Umm Qasr. Their treatment was monitored by a UK Prisoner Monitoring Team and Prisoner of War Registration Unit. After the DTDF was opened all these individuals were either released or transferred back to UK custody. Camp Bucca is now closed.

  Multi-National Division (South East) currently have 33 people interned in the DTDF. The number of detainees held at this facility has routinely been lower; for example, the number held on 7 September, before the incident in Basra on 19 September, was 20.

  I am copying this letter to Kevin Barron, John Whittingdale, Andrew Dismore and Malcolm Bruce.

7 December 2005


 
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