Select Committee on Modernisation of the House of Commons Written Evidence


Rt Hon George Howarth MP, Chairman of the Select Committee on the Armed Forces Bill (M 72)

  The Select Committee on the Armed Forces Bill was established by Order of the House on 12 December 2005, after the Bill had received its Second Reading. As with previous Select Committees established to consider Armed Forces Bills, we were provided with powers similar to a departmental Select Committee—to receive oral and written evidence and to undertake visits in the UK and abroad. Our primary role was to consider the Bill, amend it if necessary, and report it to the House. The Committee could also publish its conclusions and recommendations in a Special Report.

  Our predecessor Select Committee on the Armed Forces Bill, in 2001, noted that its inability to undertake the clause by clause consideration of the Bill in public was a hindrance to its scrutiny of the proposals. In response to those concerns the Government provided, in the Motion establishing this Committee, for a procedural innovation that allowed us to conduct the formal clause-by-clause consideration of the Bill in public. The Committee decided to take advantage of that power, and to conduct that formal consideration in a manner that followed Standing Committee procedure as closely as possible.

THE COMMITTEE AGREED TO:

Meet in a Standing Committee Room

  Meeting in a Standing Committee room helped the Committee "shift" into a Standing Committee frame of mind.

An Order of Consideration motion

  The Committee agreed a formal Order of Consideration motion to allow it to consider the Schedules with the Clauses that introduced them. Agreeing a formal Order of Consideration motion also enabled the Committee to alter the order in which it considered the bill when that became appropriate.

An informal timetable

  The Committee decided against creating a formal timetable but agreed an informal timetable for the consideration of the Bill. Our meeting times were more flexible than for a Standing Committee. An informal timetable was a necessity given that we had no binding programme motion. The allocation of time for consideration of the Bill would be a potential area for difficulties for more contentious bills.

A time limit for tabling amendments

  The Committee agreed to adopt the two day time limit for the tabling of amendments, as is the case in Standing Committees. This time limit has the benefit of ensuring that amendments are printed at least once prior to their being considered in the Committee.

Chairman's provisional grouping of amendments

  The Chairman of this Committee had no power of Selection, and therefore there was no authority under which amendments could be rejected. The Committee agreed that the Chairman should suggest groupings of amendments.

Publish an amendment paper

  Arrangements were made to produce an Amendment Paper that was included in the Vote bundle. The Committee's amendments appeared on the blue notice papers on the day after they are tabled, and on white paper on the day of the meeting.

A verbatim record of proceedings

  Arrangements were made for Hansard to take a verbatim report of the proceedings, which was published in the same way as Hansard of a Standing Committee. It would be unacceptable for there to be no official report of proceedings given that the Select Committee was meeting in public.

  We undertook the initial part of our work—taking oral evidence—in the same way as any other Select Committee. The majority of the oral evidence was provided by MoD and the Armed Forces. The Committee undertook two UK visits and one overseas visit to Cyprus, Oman and Iraq. The presence of a Minister on the Committee did not appear to affect the questioning or answers provided by witnesses. The Minister attended all but one evidence session, but did not question witnesses.

  The overseas visit was a highlight for those Members who took part. The visit provided an opportunity for Members to "gel" as a Committee. The programme consisted mainly of informal discussions with officers and men. Those discussions were particularly useful and probably provided us with more frank views than structured briefing, or question and answer sessions would have done.

  The Committee was accompanied during the visit by members of the bill team, all but one of whom were members of the Armed Forces. The Committee took advantage of the opportunity to have informal discussions with those who knew the Bill best; and that provided not only a clearer understanding of the effect and intention of the legislation; but also may have diminished concerns among Members about the level of Service involvement in developing the proposals in the Bill. I think other select committees might find such close contact with officials beneficial.

  I believe Members found that approximating our proceedings as much as possible to the familiar Standing Committee format helpful. The lack of chairman's powers did not impede the Committee. The goodwill generated on the visit survived into the Standing Committee phase and helped the Committee come to agreement on an informal programme, which it stuck to.

  When the Committee came to consider the draft Special Report, party political differences became more apparent. This may be inevitable, particularly for a Committee that will not have to continue to work together once it has completed agreeing the report.

  The approach we adopted for this Bill was beneficial to our scrutiny of an unusually large and complex piece of legislation by the standards of Armed Forces Bills. We agreed as a Committee that the approach should be applied to future Armed Forces Bills and could usefully be considered for politically uncontentious legislation of appropriate scope and scale that scrutiny would profit from select committee style evidence-taking.

May 2006


 
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