Select Committee on Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 180-183)

MR PAUL YOUNG, COUNCILLOR DAVID BROWNE AND MRS SUE SMITH

31 JANUARY 2006

Q180 Sir Paul Beresford: Would you include your gearing, please?

  Mr Young: Yes.

Q181 Mr Hands: Just coming back to the operational service, would you have preferred it to have included those considerations?

  Mr Young: From a personal point of view, I should have liked to have seen an holistic approach to the assessment which actually dealt with all aspects of the service. That is purely a personal point of view.

Q182 Sir Paul Beresford: Is that not likely to come? Yesterday we had a group of officials. We had the Director of Fire Resilience, we had the Head of the Fire Service Inspectorate, we had the Head of the Fire Service Improvement Team and we had the Head of the Fire Service Effectiveness Division. They sound like a bunch of hornets coming down on you in addition to CPA.

  Mr Young: We are quite used to being inspected and we have been inspected for many years. There are some advantages in actually it taking an holistic approach because, frankly, from a practitioner's point of view on the ground, it gets it done and finished rather than repeating the inspections over time.

Q183 Sir Paul Beresford: They ought really to all come together and come to see you for less time.

  Mr Young: We have always had the view that the degree of inspection from all sorts of different organisations has been excessive. Of course we would say this would we not? The more that can be rationalised and the impact on staff time minimised, from an organisational standpoint, the better.

  Mrs Smith: I think I would emphasise that we are a fairly small organisation as a combined Fire Authority and yet we are subject to the same regimes as a large county council. In terms of audit, that is an issue.

  Chair: Thank you very much indeed.





 
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