Select Committee on Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 260-262)

BOB WILKINSON, MR PETER HOLLAND AND MR CHRIS KENNY

31 JANUARY 2006

Q260 Dr Pugh: If there is going to be a North West Police Force, or something larger than you currently have at the moment, would you sooner have it decided earlier than the Government intend to have it decided?

  Mr Holland: I should certainly want to be involved in the discussions. The issue professionally from a Fire and Rescue Service point of view is that there is no evidence that larger Fire and Rescue Services are more efficient than smaller Fire and Rescue Services, in fact there are some very efficient smaller Fire and Rescue Services in existence now.

Q261 Mr Hands: A question on comprehensive performance assessment or CPA, do you think the recent CPA review and process has enabled a robust and thorough review of the Fire Service in your case?

  Mr Holland: We found it extremely helpful in focusing our efforts towards modernising the service on the issues it focused on. It was clearly lacking in that it did not look at the thing which is most important to the public, that is delivery of service to the public, other than judging us on outcomes, clearly very important outcomes, on reducing fire deaths and injuries and fires generally.

Q262 Mr Hands: On balance did you find it beneficial compared with the additional costs involved? How much do you think it cost the authority?

  Mr Holland: In cash terms we spent around £20,000, but officers' time was involved which we have not quantified. We could try to put some numbers on that for you, if that would be helpful.

  Chair: It would be, if you would not mind. Just drop us a note about it. Thank you very much indeed, it has been very helpful.





 
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