Select Committee on Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 317-319)

MR TOM CARROLL, MR PHIL TOASE AND MR STEVE MCGUIRK

6 FEBRUARY 2006

Chair: May I welcome you as well and make the same points I made with the previous panel that it is entirely up to you which one of you answers which questions; we leave you to decide.

Q317  Mr Betts: Regional control centres—looking at the evidence provided to us, it seems that you are fully in support of regional control centres, fully in support of the FireLink Project. You have some concerns about the costs and you are not really sure that the benefits have been proven. Normally I would expect senior officers in local government to first of all assess the costs of a project and then see whether the benefits are proven and then decide whether they support it rather than the other way round.

  Mr Carroll: I think that is a very fair question. Firstly, yes, we do support the principle of both regional control rooms and FireLink and we have said that from the beginning. We can see the very definite benefits they can bring. We are also very keen to see the successful implementation, not just to talk about it being good, but to see it in action. We have outlined in our submission a number of concerns also which includes the fact that there is absence of a business case for us to qualify that situation and also that the financial figures have not been made fully available. It is not within our domain to calculate or qualify because it is an ODPM managed and run project.

Q318 Mr Betts: How can you support something when you do not know how much it is going to cost and presumably if that money is around it might be spent on something else, it would be even more beneficial, and there is not actually a business case because some of these benefits have not been proven either? How can you support something which is as vague as that?

  Mr Carroll: We support the principle on the grounds of resilience and on the grounds that with the greater user of personnel we believe there will be the opportunity to perform and to provide a much better service.

Q319 Mr Betts: In what sense? Can you explain precisely what level of improvement of performance you expect to see?

  Mr Carroll: First of all, a far better level of equipment, hopefully with that the greater use of technology, faster response times.


 
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