Select Committee on Procedure Minutes of Evidence


Supplementary evidence from Mr Jim Murphy MP, Parliamentary Secretary, Cabinet Office (P 53)

  The Committee requested that examples be provided of amendments to private or hybrid legislation which might be made using order-making powers under the Bill (Question 57). Clause 1(3)(a) of the Bill would permit the amendment by order of local Acts (which concern particular areas and govern, for example, port and harbour authorities, charities or educational institutions). The Bill would not permit the amendment of personal Acts (which concerns named individuals and regulate such matters as family trusts or estates). An example of an amendment that would include making amendments to local and public Acts that might be suitable for delivery by order is the winding up of the Covent Garden Market Authority and return of the Market to the private sector. An order which made these amendments would contain provision which, if contained in a public Bill, would make that Bill hybrid.

  At various points during the evidence session I referred to the effective veto which the relevant Parliamentary committees can exercise regarding individual draft orders. I would like to take this opportunity to clarify that this was a reference to the veto which is in effect created by the Ministerial undertaking given during the Parliamentary passage of the 2001 Act, which has to date never been departed from and will continue to apply to draft orders under the powers in this Bill, as it is currently drafted.

  In response to Question 6, 1 stated that every protection in the 2001 Act will remain. In this respect I was referring to the limits on the power contained in the 2001 Act now contained in the pre-conditions of clause 3 of the Bill, which have been adapted to cater for the removal of the concept of legal burdens. These pre-conditions will now apply more generally to orders than under the 2001 Act, along with the added protection that no new taxation or taxation increases can be imposed using the order making power.

  With reference to my response to Question 40, it should be noted that if a relevant committee were to make a recommendation on which procedure should apply to an order on day 21 of the procedure, and the relevant House were to make a contradictory resolution within the 21-day period, then the decision of the House would prevail over the recommendation of its committee. However the committee and the House are subject to the same, concurrent 21-day period.

  Finally, I was asked in Questions 48 to 52 to explain whether there was any significance attached to the difference between the wording of the super-affirmative resolution procedure in the 2001 Act and the wording of the super-affirmative procedure in the Bill as it is currently drafted. The order-making procedure under the 2001 Act differs from that in the Bill in one aspect. Under the 2001 Act, a draft order is not laid until after the 60-day period for scrutiny has expired. Under the Bill, a draft order is laid at the beginning of the scrutiny period in order to enable either of the three alternative procedures to apply to an order. The drafting of clause 16 reflects this difference in particular. The Minister can lay a revised draft order at the end of the 60-day period if he considers that changes should be made to the original draft. Any further differences are drafting changes designed to ensure that the clause is as clear as possible. These do not have any substantive effect on how super-affirmative procedure works.

March 2006





 
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