Select Committee on Public Accounts Minutes of Evidence


Supplementary memorandum submitted by the Northern Ireland Department of Health, Social Services and Public Safety

Question 109 (Mr Jenkins): You said you compared your set-up with hospitals on the mainland in England that were as bad or worse than this. Name them, please, with the operating theatre times; and

Question 123 (Mr Bacon): I have no way of assessing Mr Gowdy's statement that Northern Ireland is not out of kilter other than this sample of 16 trusts which we have not got details of. It would be very helpful to have that as soon as possible.

  The sample of 16 Trusts, to which the DHSSPS referred in its evidence to PAC, included the following organisations:

    1.  Aintree Hospitals NHS Trusts

    2.  County Durham & Darlington Acute Hospitals NHS Trust:

    —  Darlington Memorial Hospital

    —  Bishop Auckland General Hospital

    3.  Leeds Teaching Hospital NHS Trust

    4.  Mid Cheshire Hospitals NHS Trust

    5.  South Tyneside Health Care NHS Trust

    6.  Southport and Ormskirk Hospital NHS Trust:

    —  Southport Hospital

    —  Ormskirk Hospital

    7.  Bromley Hospitals NHS Trust

    8.  Cambridge University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust

    9.  Mayday Healthcare NHS Trust

  10.  NHS Lothian University Hospitals Division

  11.  NHS Tayside Acute Services Division

  12.  Norfolk and Norwich University Hospital NHS Trust

  13.  North Glasgow University Hospital NHS Trust

  14.  Nottingham City Hospital NHS Trust

  15.  Portsmouth Hospitals NHS Trust

  16.  United Bristol Healthcare NHS Trust

Questions 142-143 (Mr Bacon): I would appreciate a note with accurate information on the number of patients waiting to be admitted to hospital.

  The total number of patients waiting to be admitted to hospital in Northern Ireland at the end of September 2004 stood at 50,684. At the end of September 2002 it stood at 60,190.

  In Northern Ireland, inpatient excess waiters are defined as those having to wait 12 months or more for admission to the Cardiac Surgery specialty and those having to wait 18 months or more to other specialties.

  The number of excess waiters at the end of September 2004 stood at 3,095 (6.1% of the total waiting). At the end of September 2002 it stood at 9,158 (15.2% of the total waiting)

  Source: Northern Ireland Waiting List Bulletins September 2004 and September 2002

Questions 156-157 (Mr Bacon): How many doctors have been disciplined?

  There have been no cases in Northern Ireland where a Trust has had to institute disciplinary proceedings against any doctor for failing to fulfil their contractual commitments as a consequence of "persistent non-compliance" with local protocols for the notification of attendance at operating sessions.

Question 183 (Mr Jenkins): I shall not ask you about the bed blockers. I did not like the answer I got but I do not think I will get much farther than Mr Allan did on that one. Have you had any costs done for the non-attenders? If we can look at page 74, 4.32, the National Booked Admissions Programme that we have in parts of England where there are pilot schemes. Have you worked out how much you would be saving if you had a booked system as to how much it is costing for the non-attenders? If you have not got a figure, could you let us have a note on it, please?

  In 2003-04 there were 1,663 cancelled sessions. The Department does not routinely collect information on the split between cancellations by the patient and cancellations by the Trust.

  However, an exercise undertaken in 2002 as part of the Audit Commission's Acute Hospital Portfolio indicated that, in Northern Ireland, approximately 60% of cancellations were attributable to the patient. The equivalent rate in GB was 56%.

  Assuming that this proportion has remained constant, and that no alternative use can made of the resources that would otherwise have been applied to these cancelled sessions, then, with an estimated average cost per operating session of £2,500, the maximum cost of non-attenders in 2003-04 was approximately £2.5 million.

November 2004



 
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