Select Committee on Scottish Affairs Minutes of Evidence


Memorandum submitted by the Scottish Executive

BACKGROUND

  1.  The "Sewel Convention"—that Westminster would not normally legislate with regard to devolved matters in Scotland without the consent of the Scottish Parliament—is an essential feature of the devolution settlement, being reflected in the Memorandum of Understanding between the UK Government and the Devolved Administrations, as well as in the UK Government's Devolution Guidance Note (DGN) 10. Without some understanding or commitment along these lines, it is difficult to see how any system of devolution could successfully operate within a constitutional framework incorporating a state Parliament which remains sovereign. The Convention makes it possible for that to happen.

  2.  With the experience of over six years of devolved government on which to draw, this seems an appropriate point for reviewing the practical operation of the Convention. In that light the Scottish Parliament's Procedures Committee recently undertook an inquiry into the operation of the Convention; its report led to a number of changes to the way in which the Scottish Parliament considers giving consent. The report also made a number of observations about matters of more direct relevance to Westminster. Against this background, the Scottish Executive welcomes the decision of the Scottish Affairs Committee to hold this inquiry and specifically to consider the outcome of the Scottish Parliament's own inquiry and innovations.

  3.  Fundamentally, the Executive's view—which we were pleased to see was shared by many of the parties, academics and commentators who submitted evidence to the Procedures Committee's inquiry—is that as a matter of principle the Sewel Convention has provided an important constitutional safeguard which reflects and respects the devolution settlement and operates to the benefit of the people of Scotland. The Executive also recognises the need to ensure that the Convention operates effectively in practice and has endeavoured to co-operate with the Scottish Parliament to this end.

  4.  The way in which the Scottish Parliament deals with proposals for consent under the Convention has evolved over time, most recently and significantly since the Procedures Committee inquiry last year. While a key point has always been a decision by the Parliament on a motion—generally known colloquially as a "Sewel Motion" but now, in the wake of recent reforms, formally referred to in the Standing Orders of the Parliament as a "Legislative Consent Motion"—the associated process has developed. We hope it will be helpful to explain the new procedures in a little detail and to outline the processes within the Scottish Executive that take place before Legislative Consent Motions reach the Parliament.

POLICY AGREEMENT

  5.  There has been a variety of circumstances in which the Scottish Ministers have invited the Scottish Parliament to approve a motion consenting to legislation at Westminster, including:

    —  where it would be more effective to legislate in a single piece of legislation in order to put in place a single UK-wide or GB-wide statutory regime;

    —  where a complex inter-relationship between reserved and devolved matters can most effectively and efficiently be dealt with in a single piece of legislation;

    —  where the UK Parliament is considering legislation for England and Wales which could beneficially also be brought into effect in Scotland, but sufficient Parliamentary time is not readily available at Holyrood without setting aside our own legislative plans and priorities;

    —  where the provisions in question, although they relate to devolved matters, are minor or technical and entirely uncontroversial; and

    —  where the powers of the Scottish Parliament and/or Scottish Ministers would be enhanced in a manner that would be outwith the competence of the Scottish Parliament—for example, conferring powers on the Scottish Ministers in relation to reserved matters.

  6.  It is important to underscore that the Convention has not been used to consent to the transfer of any part of the Scottish Parliament's legislative competence back to Westminster. As regards devolved matters, the Scottish Parliament has retained the right to legislate on the same issue itself on another occasion if it wishes to do so, and to amend or repeal provisions on devolved matters which have been enacted at Westminster. There is, therefore, no question of the Convention operating in a way which somehow undermines the devolution settlement. On the contrary, it allows Scotland to have the best of both legislative worlds by enabling useful provisions to be enacted at Westminster, subject to the consent of the Scottish Parliament, when a Scottish legislative vehicle is feasible.

  7.  When there is a suggestion—from the UK Government or the Scottish Executive—that there may be a case for including relevant provisions in a UK Bill (ie provisions which, under the Convention, would require the consent of the Scottish Parliament), generally the merits and alternative options are initially discussed between officials. As well as the relevant policy officials, discussions will usually also involve those in the Constitutional Policy Unit of the Scottish Executive, the Constitutional Branch of the Scotland Office and the Office of the Solicitor to the Advocate General ("OSAG").

  8.  From the Executive's side, once officials have explored the options, advice will be put to the relevant portfolio Ministers. If the portfolio Ministers conclude that the appropriate option is to seek the consent of the Scottish Parliament for legislation at Westminster, they will seek collective Ministerial agreement—generally from the Cabinet Sub-Committee on Legislation ("CSCL")—to the policy and to legislating in a UK Bill subject to the Sewel Convention. Authorisation from CSCL is the Executive's commitment to proposing a Legislative Consent Motion in the Scottish Parliament in due course, and is communicated to the UK Government.

NEW SCOTTISH PARLIAMENT PROCEDURES

  9.  The Scottish Parliament's procedures for dealing with proposals under the Sewel Convention are now largely enshrined in its Standing Orders. This formalises the previously informal system of dealing with Sewel Motions. The Standing Orders now refer to these Motions as "Legislative Consent Motions" and the explanatory memorandums which are now required (these were previously provided by the Executive on a voluntary basis) are to be called "Legislative Consent Memorandums".

  10.  Under the new Standing Orders, the Scottish Executive must provide the Scottish Parliament with a Memorandum on every Bill introduced at Westminster which contains relevant provisions. This Memorandum must be provided within two weeks of the Bill's introduction. This rule applies whether or not the Executive intends to lodge a Legislative Consent Motion on the Bill in question. Discussions between the UK Government and the Scottish Executive should take place well in advance of a Bill's introduction which means that it should be possible, in most cases, to achieve this target.

  11.  Once the Memorandum has been lodged in the Scottish Parliament, it will be referred to the Business Bureau who will allocate it to a lead Committee for consideration and to any secondary Committees deemed appropriate. Where the relevant provisions will confer on the Scottish Ministers powers to make subordinate legislation, the Memorandum will also be referred to the Subordinate Legislation Committee ("SLC"). The SLC and any secondary Committee(s) may choose to make a report to the lead Committee. The lead Committee will then consider the issue and make a report to the Parliament.

  12.  Once the lead Committee has reported, five working days must elapse before the Legislative Consent Motion may be lodged in the Parliament, to give Members time to consider the report. The Parliament will then vote on the Motion in the Chamber. The vote will, on occasion, be preceded by a debate.

  13.  The Procedures Committee also made recommendations, that were not subsequently included in the Standing Orders, but which the Executive was happy to accept. For example, the Committee recommended that, wherever possible, the Executive should write to the Presiding Officer and all MSPs following the Queen's Speech to outline which of the Bills in the UK Government's legislative programme are likely to result in a Legislative Consent Motion coming forward from the Executive. However, it was acknowledged that it would not always be clear at the time of the Queen's Speech which Bills will give rise to a Legislative Consent Motion as much of the detailed policy is often worked out at a later stage. On such Bills, the Executive agreed that, once the position had become clear, the relevant Executive Minister would write to the relevant Committee convener informing him/her of the intention to bring forward a Legislative Consent Motion.

  14.  It is clear from these new procedures that quite some lead in time is required to ensure that all the procedures can be followed correctly and to ensure that the Scottish Parliament has sufficient time and information to come to an informed decision on the issues before it.

WESTMINSTER PROCEDURES

  15.  The Scottish Executive and the UK Government already work closely together to ensure the smooth running of the Sewel Convention. This includes day-to-day discussions on particular Bills and particular policies but also includes educational events, such as the successful seminars held following the last two Queen's Speeches. These events were hosted by the Scotland Office and included input from Scottish Executive and Scotland Office Ministers and officials. They were extremely well attended and were well received by the Whitehall Bill Teams and Scottish Executive officials represented. Scottish Executive and Scotland Office officials regularly give talks at Bill Team and other training events to stress the importance of considering devolution issues early in policy development and Ministers talk regularly to each other about these issues.

  16.  The Scottish Executive was pleased to note that one of the terms of reference of the Scottish Affairs Committee's inquiry would be to consider the possible changes to Westminster procedures promulgated by the Procedures Committee of the Scottish Parliament in its recent report on the operation of the Sewel Convention.

  17.  The Procedures Committee made a number of suggestions for the approach that might be taken at Westminster:

    —  It suggested that Bills at Westminster that were subject to the Sewel Convention might be tagged in some way so that MPs (particularly Scottish MPs) would be aware that the Bill contained provisions subject to the Sewel Convention.

    —  It proposed that Explanatory Notes to a Bill might contain a standard section on the Sewel Convention which outlined which particular clauses of the Bill would be subject to the consent of the Scottish Parliament. It was also suggested that the Explanatory Notes that were reprinted for the Bill beginning its progress in the Second House could include details of the Scottish Parliament's resolution agreeing or otherwise to the provisions subject to the Sewel Convention.

    —  It proposed a formal mechanism, perhaps between the Presiding Officer and the Speaker of the House of Commons and the Lord Chancellor, to notify the UK Parliament of the decision of the Scottish Parliament when it voted on a Legislative Consent Motion.

  The Scottish Executive supports the aims of these suggestions, while at the same time fully appreciating that the feasibility and practical value of introducing these (or other) procedural innovations at Westminster is a matter for the UK Parliament and UK Government. Indeed, it is with that in mind that the Executive particularly welcomes the fact and the timing of the Scottish Affairs Committee's current inquiry.

CONCLUSION

  18.  The effect of the Sewel Convention is twofold. It enshrines what amounts to a "self-denying ordinance" that the sovereign Westminster Parliament will not normally legislate with regard to devolved matters in Scotland which are the province of the Scottish Parliament. However, at the same time it has the flexibility to provide a mechanism which enables provisions on relevant matters to be included in Westminster Bills with the agreement of both administrations and both Parliaments.

  19.  In the Executive's view the Convention is a useful and important aspect of the devolution settlement which operates to the benefit of the people of Scotland. In effect, it allows Scotland to have the best of both legislative worlds at Westminster and at Holyrood: without it, the stark choice would be to do without worthwhile legislation or to put aside our own legislative priorities to make room for a separate Scottish Bill. But it is important to keep the scope and the scale of the Convention in perspective. Legislative Consent Motions almost invariably relate only to limited provisions in a Westminster Bill, and are subject to the express agreement of the Scottish Parliament in plenary, after proper scrutiny by the relevant Committee of the Parliament. The operation of the Convention is therefore open and transparent. It fully reflects the Executive's accountability to Parliament and the Parliament's legislative competence in respect of devolved matters.

13 January 2006


 
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