Select Committee on The Speaker's Committee First Report


Minutes of the Third Meeting, Session 2005-06, Wednesday 25 January 2006

Present:  The Rt Hon Michael Martin MP, Speaker, in the Chair

Rt Hon the Lord Falconer of Thornton, Lord Chancellor

Rt Hon Alan Beith MP, Chairman, Constitutional Affairs Committee

The Rt. Hon. Sir Gerald Kaufman MP

Mr Peter Viggers MP

Apologies:  Mr Humfrey Malins CBE, MP and Lady Hermon MP

1. Speaker's Opening Remarks

The Speaker informed the Committee that the Prime Minister had notified him on 24 January 2006 that, in exercise of his power under section 2(3) of the Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Act 2000, he had appointed Mr Phil Woolas, Minister for Local Government, as a member of the Committee.

2. The Electoral Commission's Estimate, 2006-07, and Five Year Plan, 2006-07 to 2010-11

The Committee noted the advice of the Treasury on the Electoral Commission's Estimate for 2006-07 and its Five Year Plan for 2006-07 to 2010-11 (the Corporate Plan) as set out in the letter of 14 December 2005 to the Speaker from the Chief Secretary, including concern that the Estimate provided for an above-inflation increase compared with 2005-06. In his advice, the Chief Secretary invited the Committee to "look at what scope exists to depress the increase".

The Secretary reported that he had shown the Treasury advice to the Electoral Commission, and invited its comments. In the light of the advice, the Electoral Commission had submitted a revised bid, which he had circulated to the Committee, with the Request for Resources for 2006-07 reduced from £25.145 million to £24.895 million[20], and the equivalent figures in the Corporate Plan for the following years adjusted accordingly.

[Mr Sam Younger, Chairman of the Electoral Commission, and Mr Peter Wardle, Chief Executive, were invited to join the meeting].

The 2006-07 Estimate

Mr Wardle reported that the gap between the revised bid he had submitted on 10 January and the 'inflation only' increase favoured by the Treasury was about £190,000. He had looked again at the underlying figures, and had now found that provision in the Estimate for employer's National Insurance contributions had originally been overestimated by about £150,000 as a result of a mistake in the way it had been calculated. He was satisfied that he could also make further efficiency savings equivalent to the remaining difference between the revised bid and an 'inflation only' increase over 2005-06 without damage to the Commission's performance. He was therefore now further reducing the Commission's bid to a Net Resource Requirement for 2006-07 of £24.704 million.

The Committee expressed surprise that Treasury reservations had apparently emerged so late in the day, and asked what discussions had taken place between the Commission and Treasury before the Estimate had been submitted. Mr Wardle explained that several discussions had taken place between Commission staff and Treasury officials, who had received draft figures about a month before the Estimate came to the Committee. The original bid was slightly below the indicative provision for 2006-07 in last year's Corporate Plan, and the Treasury had given no indication of concern or dissatisfaction on its part until the Chief Secretary had written to the Speaker.

Given the Commission's independence from Government, and that its relatively modest financial requirements belied its political significance, it was agreed by the Committee and the Commission representatives that, in future, discussions with the Treasury on the Commission's resource requirements and forward plans should be concluded at a higher level. This would provide a much better chance of any substantial Treasury reservations being identified, and addressed as far as possible, at an earlier stage.

The Committee asked whether the proposed reduction in the Estimate made it more likely that the Commission would need to bring forward a Supplementary Estimate. Mr Wardle said that supplementary provision would have been sought in any event to cover new functions arising from enactment of the Electoral Administration Bill. Activities such as the proposed duty to set and monitor local authorities' performance standards in relation to electoral matters, accrediting observers, and acting as a CORE keeper, would be additions to the Commission's core costs. Also, the Commission could incur significant costs in relation to the proposed piloting of personal identifiers. The precise financial requirement in 2006-07 will depend on the final provisions of the legislation, which will not be known until the Bill has completed its passage through Parliament. However, the Commission needed to be ready and was therefore discussing the likely financial implications with the Department for Constitutional Affairs.

The Five Year Plan, 2006-07 to 2010-11

The Committee noted the Treasury's suggestion that the Commission's absolute priority objectives are unclear. The Chairman commented that the Commission had statutory obligations in a range of discrete areas, and, while it can prioritise within them, it cannot prioritise between them. The Committee also noted the Treasury's suggestion that the Commission move towards a smaller set of targets centred on the key outcomes it aims to deliver. The Chairman responded that the Commission believed its targets were appropriate, given the number of disparate areas in which it operates, and did not think there was a need to reduce them.

Mr Wardle commented that the Commission's approach in his view compared well with that of a Government unit of a similar size. The Chairman added that the need now was to focus on refining the nature and precision of the targets.

The Committee asked if the Commission had too many responsibilities, and if it would be better if the law prioritised these. The Chairman thought not, in his view it was appropriate that one body, the Electoral Commission, dealt with the different electoral-related areas. Mr Wardle added that while there was no question of prioritising between the Commission's areas of responsibility, it could and did prioritise within areas. While there was an irreducible minimum resource requirement within each area if the Commission's statutory obligations were to be met, subject to that, it concentrated resources, where appropriate, on dealing with higher risks, and also accorded a lower priority to discretionary activity.

The Committee questioned how the Commission balanced the resource demands of its different, and potentially competing, responsibilities. The Chairman responded that it was now broadly in a 'steady state' in relation to expenditure on its core functions and was confident that generally it had the right resources in the right places. In the unlikely eventuality that the Commission ever judged that it had insufficient resources overall to discharge its statutory obligations, it would seek additional resources from the Committee.

The Committee asked what account the Commission had taken in its objectives and targets of broader social inclusion issues. The Chairman explained that social inclusion issues went to the heart of the Commission's work, and were also identified in the Electoral Administration Bill. Asked how much of the Commission's public awareness spending was aimed at the socially excluded, Mr Wardle estimated that about £1 million a year was spent on programmes deliberately aimed at the disadvantaged. He undertook to submit a note to the Committee setting out details of the Commission's expenditure aimed at the disadvantaged and the socially excluded.

The Speaker thanked the Chairman and Mr Wardle for attending.

[Mr Younger and Mr Wardle withdrew from the meeting]

Decisions of the Committee

The 2006-07 Estimate

The Committee, having taken account of the Treasury advice and the Comptroller and Auditor General's 'value for money' report for 2003-04[21], approved a Net Resource Requirement for the 2006-07 Estimate of £24.704 million, a Net Cash Requirement of £24.684 million, and Appropriations in Aid of £45,000 as consistent with the economical, efficient and effective discharge by the Electoral Commission of its functions in that year. The approved Net Resource Requirement equals the revised provision sought at the meeting by the Chief Executive, and represents an 'inflation only' increase over the corresponding 2005-06 Requirement.

The Committee also agreed that the Commission may make, without reference to it, such minor and insubstantial adjustments to the Estimate as may be required for technical reasons, subject to Treasury agreement in each case.

The Five Year Plan, 2006-07 to 2010-11

The Committee noted the Chief Secretary's welcome for the Corporate Plan, and his recognition that this addressed the concerns raised by his predecessor on the previous year's Plan. Having taken account of the detailed comments made by the Chief Secretary, which it commended to the Commission for detailed consideration, and the Comptroller and Auditor General's report mentioned above, the Committee approved the Corporate Plan (including the minor amendments to the original version notified to it by the Commission) as consistent with the economical, efficient and effective discharge by the Commission of its functions, subject to the substitution for the table of resource implications originally included in the Plan of a revised table based on a Net Resource Requirement for 2006-07 of £24.704 million.

3. Appointment of Electoral Commissioners

The Committee held a further brief discussion on whether the chairmanship of the Electoral Commission needed to remain a full-time position, and agreed to discuss the matter further at a future meeting.

4. The Speaker's Committee Review of the Electoral Commission

The Committee noted that the Scrutiny Unit would be submitting its report very shortly, and agreed that it would give initial consideration to this at its next meeting. The Committee also agreed that the Secretary should send a copy of the report to the Electoral Commission as soon as it was received, and invite its comments before the Committee's next meeting.

5. Date of next meeting

The Committee adjourned till Wednesday 29th March at 3.30 pm.



20   An 'inflation only' increase, based on the Commission's approved Net Resource Requirement for 2005-06 of £24.101 million, and the 2005 Pre-Budget Report projection for the GDP deflator for 2006-07 of 2.5%, would correspond to a figure of about £24.704 million. Back

21   See The Speaker's Committee Third Report 2005 (HC 783 (2005-06)), Appendix 1. Back


 
previous page contents next page

House of Commons home page Parliament home page House of Lords home page search page enquiries index

© Parliamentary copyright 2006
Prepared 1 August 2006