Select Committee on Standards and Privileges Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 156 - 159)

TUESDAY 10 JANUARY 2006

RT HON STEPHEN BYERS MP

  Q156  Chairman: Good morning Mr Byers. As you know, the Committee is deliberating on a matter that has been referred to it by the House and we are coming towards the end of our deliberations and there are some questions which the Committee and I would like to put to you. There is general agreement that the answer that you gave to the Select Committee was inaccurate. What was the right answer?

  Mr Byers: At the time I felt I had given the right answer. With hindsight I should have seen that there was a different interpretation as to what was meant by `discussion'. Had I recognised that someone might see a discussion as being a simple commissioning of work—which I did not do when I gave evidence to the Select Committee and I think even now it is still debatable, but I understand from when it was put to me in the court that in fact the commissioning of work could be a discussion—then a comment along the lines of "there had been no substantive discussion but work had been commissioned" would probably have been more accurate, but I am not quite sure that would have answered the question put to me by Mr Grayling.[1]


  Q157  Chairman: If you had said that would there have been any difficulties?

  Mr Byers: No, not at all.

  Q158  Chairman: When did you realise that the answer you had given was not accurate?

  Mr Byers: At about 2.40 on the afternoon of 14 July in the High Court. That was the first time it dawned on me that there could be a different interpretation of the word `discussions'.

  Q159  Chairman: We may want to come on to the definition of a discussion later in our deliberations. Can I just ask you some other questions? Did you regard yourself as adequately briefed during your period as Secretary of State by your Department?

  Mr Byers: Yes. I am sure there are times when the briefing could have been better, but I certainly had no complaints at the time and I would not have any complaints now.


1   Transport, Local Government and the Regions Committee, First Report of Session 2001-02, HC 239-II, Ev 102, Q857. Back


 
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