Select Committee on Transport Minutes of Evidence


Supplementary memorandum submitted by Hampshire County Council

  Thank you for your letter of 20 June. Hampshire County Council's answers to the questions you have posed are as follows.

Q1.   Direct grants are allocated specifically for transport in London. Would you like to see revenue for transport services ring-fenced in the same way for county councils? If grants were to be ring-fenced for metropolitan transport authorities how would this affect county councils?

  A1.  Ring-fencing transport funds would assist county councils' transport departments in securing a guaranteed minimum level of funding for transport schemes. However, this would reduce the flexibility enjoyed by the authority as a whole to make strategic decisions about funding levels across a number of service areas. On balance, Hampshire County Council would prefer that funds were not ring-fenced for any policy area. County Councils are best placed to make decisions about local needs and spending priorities.

Q2.   Does the authority feel that the LTP was permitted to concentrate on areas felt to be important locally? If not, why was there a feeling that the "National Shared Priorities" were to dominate over other local objectives? The Department states that the guidance encouraged local authorities (and partners) to identify local priorities within their LTP—what more steer did local authorities (and partners) need to develop local priorities?

  A2.  The national shared priorities appeared to be based more on issues that were measurable rather than issues that were ultimately important. For example, there was a shared priority on air quality because this can be assessed. But there was no shared priority on protection of the environment more generally. Equally, there were no objectives on quality of life, economic development or asset management. Whilst the LTP guidance allowed local authorities to specify additional local priorities, many local authorities were unwilling to make too much use of this in case the Government gave the LTP a lower assessment score.

  For example, the LTP guidance says:

    —  "3.3  The Department will look for evidence that the aim of delivering the shared priorities is at the heart of all local strategies and LTPs ..."

    —  "3.6 ... The Department encourages local authorities to focus on explaining the contribution of their proposals to the transport shared priorities, before describing how they would deliver any other priorities."

  These and other references in the guidance gave the clear message that local priorities should have a lower order of priority than the shared priorities.

  Hampshire County Council's LTP includes a small number of local priorities, such as quality of life, economic development and asset management. The general approach taken was to incorporate local objectives within the strategies for the shared objectives. A major example of this is the county council's approach to accessibility, which includes concepts such as urban permeability as well as the Government's more narrow definition of accessibility based on bus timetables.

Q3.   We would be grateful for an assessment of the cost of the interaction between the local authorities and the central Department for Transport, if this is possible.

  A3.  For the preparation of the LTP, most of the County Council's interaction was with the Government Office for the South East rather than the central Department for Transport. Interaction with central Department for Transport was limited to attendance at a handful of seminars and one meeting, plus occasional telephone calls and emails. It is not possible to estimate costs, which were relatively low.

Q4.   The transport Minister Dr Ladyman stated: "We can keep it under review, but actually the £5 million threshold is widely misunderstood. The £5 million is not the maximum that a local authority can spend: it is the threshold under which we are unlikely to consider giving additional grant. If we increased it to £6 million local authorities would actually be worse off because it would mean that they would have to have a £6 million scheme before we would consider giving them additional grant. Local authorities would be better pressuring us to bring the level down rather than to bring it up." What is your response to this statement? Have local authorities misunderstood the issue?

  A4.  During the first round of Local Transport Plans, the £5 million threshold represented both the minimum level for Government financial support and the maximum level that authorities could spend without Government approval. This created two distinct problems:

    —  Smaller authorities found it difficult to fund schemes that cost close to £5 million, since this was below the threshold for Government support and often too expensive for their integrated transport budgets. These authorities generally welcomed a lower major scheme threshold.

    —  Larger authorities who could afford to fund schemes costing more £5 million from their own resources, could be frustrated by the need to seek Government approval. These authorities sometimes argued for a higher major scheme threshold.

  During the course of the LTP2 process the rules were changed. Local authorities are now allowed to fund schemes costing more than £5 million from their own resources. Government approval is no longer required. Smaller authorities have also been offered ways of securing funding for schemes costing less than £5 million.

  However, this change in rules is not easy to find amongst the large number of guidance notes and letters sent by the Department for Transport. It may have been overlooked by many authorities. It is not mentioned in the Guidance on full Local Transport Plans, published in December 2004. The Government's website on local transport guidance (www.webtag.org.uk) still carries guidance from April 2004 which continues to suggest that Government approval is required for schemes costing more than £5 million:

    "schemes promoted by the local authority and for which Government approval is not required (for example schemes below the £5 million threshold)".

  If there has been misunderstanding by local authorities about the major scheme threshold it is likely to be due to the large amount of guidance by the Department of Transport.

  Hampshire County Council's view is that the recent changes to the major scheme thresholds are welcome, but they should be more clearly explained. The County Council remains concerned about the cost of bidding for a major scheme and the unpredictability of Government decisions, such as the decision not to fund the South Hampshire light rail scheme.

Q5.   It has been suggested that whole life costing, good asset management and strategic transport planning is not helped by having separate (revenue and capital) funding streams. CIPFA, the public sector accountancy body, has suggested that integration could be achieved by supporting capital schemes through the revenue account, by paying the full cost of depreciation plus an interest or opportunity cost of using capital. What would be your view on this?

  A5.  The separation of revenue and capital funding streams creates a number of difficulties for local authorities, because it reduces individual authorities' ability to match expenditure to local need. Hampshire County Council believes that asset management has been given insufficient weight in funding allocations. Because of this, the county council would support proposals to replace capital allocations with revenue funding.

10 July 2006





 
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