Select Committee on Transport Minutes of Evidence


Supplementary memorandum submitted by the Community Transport Association

INTRODUCTION OF MORE APPROPRIATE REGULATION FOR COMMUNITY TRANSPORT OPERATORS

  Previous documents from the Community Transport Association have proposed revisions to S19 and S22 legislation.

  This document has been prepared, incorporating the previous comments in a revised format at the request of the DfT officer responsible. Several new features have been added to extend the considerations to a wider number of options.

1.  INTRODUCTION

  The Review of Voluntary Transport (DETR, 1999 section 5.14 and 5.15) highlighted the inflexibilities of the current regime and recommended that the minibus permit system be updated. The CTA believes that the complexities are both confusing for existing operators and a barrier to the development of new projects and services, which is adversely affecting the ability of community transport providers to meet today's needs.

  In particular, the Review suggests enabling the use of paid drivers on S22 Community Bus schemes and opening up the S19 system for use by a wider fare paying public (where there is a lack of adequate commercial passenger transport provision). The report suggests the possibility of a single permit system for voluntary transport.

  There are essentially two very different options for overhauling the system of S19 and S22 permits:

    —  Adjustments to the existing two-permit regime—by amendments to sections 19-23 of the 1985 Act (and consequent regulations).

    —  A new unified regime, allowing paid drivers to be used on non-profit services for the general public.

2.  "NEW PERMIT REGIME"

  The Department may have a view of which particular portion of the legislation would afford the required result in the most legally effective way, but the net effect of any of the above changes would be to produce a "new permit regime".

  As with any legislation change the issue of transition from one set of rules to another needs to be considered. Retaining both section 19 and section 22 in their current form would enable community transport operators to migrate to the new permit regime. This may also facilitate certain permit operators continuing to use the existing rules.

  Certain sections in this paper do, however, suggest more detailed changes to the existing permit rules. These should be considered as part of the review.

3.  PAID DRIVERS ON MINIBUSES

  Section 19 permit holder organisations are allowed to pay drivers, whereas section 22 permit operators must use volunteers. The CTA continues to call for the use of paid drivers on section 22 Community Bus schemes and opening up the section 19 permit operations so that, where appropriate, they can be used by a wider fare paying public.

  Alternatively this requirement could be met by a new permit regime that would allow the use of paid drivers on community transport services for the general public.

  These revised arrangements would encourage further local authority investment in CT services, especially in areas where a commercial tender is unlikely to be cost effective or sustainable.

  For this to happen, it would be important that any new regulations would still allow paid CT drivers who passed their first driving test before 1997 to drive such services without needing PCV entitlement. Drivers who passed their test after January 1997 will require PCV licences in order to undertake any paid work. It may be useful to specify a minimum level of driver assessment and training as provided under the CTA UK-wide MiDAS scheme.

4.  CARS AND MPVS

  The current situation where CTs have to operate cars and MPVs under "car sharing legislation" (section 1(4) of the Public Passenger Vehicles Act) leads to confusion and misunderstanding. Issues include the variation in fares so that the total fares paid by passengers do not exceed the costs for individual journeys and the fares paid by passengers cannot be used to support the wages of drivers.

  Allowing permits to be applied to small vehicles (less than nine seats) would resolve this issue. A PSV "O" licence operator is allowed to use their operator's disk on smaller vehicles and although there have been specific difficulties with this arrangement, it has proved to be a viable option.

  This would allow group transport projects to develop the use of smaller vehicles, especially but not exclusively in rural areas.

  This type of vehicle is increasingly likely to be used for demand responsive transport schemes, due to the January 1997 driving licence change that is causing more difficulties in recruiting or training qualified drivers with a PCV driving licence.

5.  BUSES WITH MORE THAN 16 PASSENGERS

  Existing section 22 legislation does not allow vehicles with more than 16 passenger seats to be operated. The new permit regime should also allow larger vehicles (more than 16 passengers) to be operated. It is accepted that drivers of larger buses would require full D entitlement.

6.  NOT-FOR-PROFIT OPERATIONS

  It is a fundamental issue for community transport operators that they are not attempting to make a profit in terms of their overall operations. This is confirmed by having no shareholders and no mechanism to use any surplus funds for anything other than the core services that they exist to provide.

  Nevertheless, in running an undertaking that needs to secure expensive assets (minibuses) and have sufficient funds to deal with unexpected outcomes (breakdowns, employer obligations, etc) a reserve of funds is essential.

  Previous legislation has attempted to enshrine not-for-profit into legal phases and this has caused difficulties that now need to be addressed. Some specific difficulties are listed in paragraph 7 below. New wording is needed to define community transport as "a not-for-profit organisation" separating such operators from those operating with a view to profit.

7.  INCIDENTAL TO PROFIT

  Current section 19 legislation uses the phrase "Incidentally to an activity which is itself carried on with a view to profit". This phrase is too generalised. It prevents sensible arrangements on sponsorship and other partnerships with the private sector.

  One area of difficulty is in working with commercial care homes, nurseries, after school care and children's activity centres. The CTA believes that it should be possible for community transport operators to provide transport for the clients of such businesses providing there is no deliberate arrangement to increase the profitability of the businesses concerned. Currently the clients are eligible to use CT services whilst the businesses are not. This change should allow invoicing directly to the businesses instead of to their clients.

  The current arrangement also restricts the ability of supermarkets, commercial sport facility operators, and other organisations from funding transport to their establishments because they would, theoretically, make additional profits from doing so. This restriction needs to be relaxed to enable commercial facility owners to fund the transport for people with limited mobility, who cannot access mainstream public transport, for any reason, to travel to these facilities. If this change of regulation is thought likely to raise objections from commercial transport operators, it is suggested that the test of legality of any commercial funding should be that the transport service is provide on a not-for-profit basis.

  Although other restrictions apply (OFT) to working with other commercial operators, mechanisms exist to allow community transport to provide feeder services, etc. to mainstream transport services. This is an obvious use of community transport but a very limited number of examples have occurred, even though a section 19 permit would allow services to isolated communities. The phrase in section 19 also restricts such co-operation and changing it would send a clear message that such co-operation is to be encouraged.

  Ideally, the restriction should simply be not-for-profit bodies. The phrase in section 22 "without a view to profit, either on the part of that body or anybody else" is more appropriate than the current S19 prohibition on operating "incidentally" to a profit-making activity if any restriction needs to remain.

8.  SERVICES FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC—NON-REGISTERED SERVICES

  CT operators could provide non-registered services for the general public, such as services taking people to work, to training, and access to health. This should also allow demand-responsive, but non-registered services in areas where—and at times when—there is no public transport service.

9.  SERVICES FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC—REGISTERED SERVICES

  CT operators should be able to provide registered services (as section 22) for transport authorities. The new permit regime should allow routes to be registered and tenders to be submitted for supported services.

10.  LEGAL SANCTION FOR BROKERAGE ARRANGEMENTS

  Section 19 rules and the new permit regime should specifically allow the issue of "umbrella group" permits so that a CT group could manage the logistics of vehicle operations, any affiliated group could then operate under the same permit.

  Community transport groups are currently managing this issue by affiliating other community groups as part of membership scheme, then using the—"class A members of your organisation"—in the section 19 permit legislation to provide transport for other community groups. This is unsatisfactory and causes confusion.

  Vehicle sharing is widely recognised as a cost effective way of making best use of the expensive assets in the voluntary sector—minibuses.

11.  SCOPE AND APPLICABILITY OF NEW PERMIT REGIME

  The scope of any changes in legislation should be restricted to not-for-profit organisations. Such status should include:

    —  Registered Charities in England and Wales (including the new CIC proposed bodies).

    —  Bodies registered with Inland Revenue as charities in Scotland and Northern Ireland (Including the new proposals for charity registration in both countries).

    —  Wholly owned subsidiaries of the above who have a legal document specifying that any profits would be gift aided to the parent body.

    —  Industrial and Provident Societies.

  A central register of such bodies should be maintained with a process designed to check the validity of each application and deal with appeals from any source concerning the validity of a particular organisation. This could be included with other record keeping proposed below. The Community Transport Association, which is currently funded by the DfT, could provide this service to both Westminster and devolved administrations.

12.  RELATIONSHIP WITH COMMERCIAL SECTOR

  In general, the type of services that could be operated by community transport would not clash with commercial bus companies' desire for profit making. When and if it does, the conflict should be dealt with as follows.

    —  Where the service results from funding provided by a public body, the community transport operator should show that the costs associated with the service are fully recouped from the funding provided. The funder should be given guidelines to make this assessment. These can be provided by the CTA in consultation with the commercial operator's trade organisation (CPT). Guidelines from the Charity Commissioners make it clear that charities should not use charitable money to subsidise services for local or national governments.

    —  Where the service is provided by the community transport organisation by using funds that have provided a surplus from other activities, there should be no requirement to show a cost breakdown. The only options open to the commercial operator should be to inform the community transport operator that they are prepared to run the service at a lower cost.

    —  Where the service is provided as a direct result of a financial contribution from a non-public body, this shall be treated as a contractual relationship that can only be changed at the appropriate time by the commercial company offering to complete the work at a lower cost.

13.  SECTION 19 PERMITS AND CONTRACTS

  Considerable confusion exists concerning when section 19 operators can bid for home-to-school and social services local authority contracts. The UK is divided into two camps with local authorities taking opposing decisions in adjacent counties.

  The UK government may have little power to influence local government contract conditions, but a simple process is required to enable community transport organisations to challenge contract conditions which unfairly penalise the voluntary sector and are not consistent with the requirements on councils to obtain best value, particularly when best value is considered against the overall requirements within councils, joining together the various departmental needs. For example it may be "best value" for a council to allocate home-to-school work and regeneration work to the same CT operator even though, taken in isolation, one of the contracts could be more expensive than a competitor.

  It should be made clear that section 19 permit holders, and holders of whatever new permit regime is introduced can tender for local authority contracts.

14.  SECTION 19 PERMITS—PURPOSE OF JOURNEY

  Legislation effectively restricts the purpose of journeys on a section 19 minibus—Education, Religion, Social Welfare and Recreation. The 2002 Advice note extended the criteria to include people who cannot use public transport and do not have access to a car. This is only one aspect of social exclusion, which is defined as what can happen when people or areas suffer from a combination of linked problems such as unemployment, poor skills, low incomes, poor housing, high crime environments, bad health and family breakdown. A clearer position would be to include "social exclusion" as a further legitimate purpose within the context of section 19 if this permit system is to remain.

15.  COMPETENCE OF STAFF WORKING FOR APPLICANT BODY UNDER NEW PERMIT REGIME

  The requirement for a Certificate of Professional Competence would be inappropriate for the new permit regime. The cost of obtaining this certificate (over £600 in some cases) is a barrier to the CT sector providing public services.

  The need for operator's staff to have sufficient understanding of legislation and to know where additional information can be found is still valid.

  CTA proposes that a new, more appropriate qualification should be developed, in conjunction with GoSkills, the Sector Skills Council for the passenger transport industry, for community transport operators.

  It is suggested that any documentary output from the DfT should mention this development without placing any time limit on its implementation.

16.  NEW REGIME PERMITS ISSUING PROCESS

  The current situation where Section 19 permits are issued by numerous bodies creates a lack of focus on quality, safety and legality of operations.

  In Northern Ireland, the Community Transport Association issues the equivalent to the section 19 permit and it is suggested that this should apply to the rest of Great Britain.

  The cost of issuing new regime permits should be kept to a minimum. However, standards within the sector need to be maintained and it is proposed that new regime permits should be time limited. Five years would be a compromise between the "cost minimisation" and "standards keeping" criteria. The licence should involve a single fee for the five-year duration, with each disc priced to cover administrative costs only.

17.  MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS

  This aspect of the current section 19 permit causes the biggest number of issues with the commercial sector operators. They claim that, although the recommendations for maintenance processes are similar, they have the added enforcement mechanism of the VOSA inspectors.

  CTA recommends that community transport operators should undertake regular safety inspections in accordance with the VOSA's Guide to Maintaining Roadworthiness and require a statement that this will be done before any permit is issued. However, we are aware that other section 19 permit issuing bodies do not require such an undertaking.

  It is proposed to address this issue with a self-declaration audit system. Operators involved should be required to forward to the permit issuing body (CTA), an annual audit sheet, which demonstrates that they are complying with the recommendations on maintenance, safety inspections and other related matters. This could also include a defect reporting system, daily driver inspections, MOTs and Insurance. The sheet would require an affidavit style signature to ensure that operators met the requirements.

  CTA would be able to influence companies involved in insuring minibuses by offering an open record of those operators who had not completed the required audit form.

  Operators involved in civil cases that questioned their duty of care would also be able to obtain from CTA a statement confirming that audit requirements had been met. This would be an additional incentive to complete the process correctly.

  The experience of community transport operators in dealing with VOSA staff suggests that inspectors and their supervisors require additional training in community transport legislation, etc.

18.  FINANCIAL STANDING

  This is used in the current PSV operator legislation as a rudimentary measure of the operator's ability to maintain vehicles.

  It is not appropriate to the community transport sector for several reasons.

  Most not-for-profit organisations normally run on the very minimum of reserves. Several funders penalise community transport operators for having surplus funds because the level of the surplus is deducted from future funding grants. It is known that several small operators show compliance with this piece of legislation by obtaining bank overdraft facilities. This does not achieve the objective of the legislation because the bank's money is available but is unlikely to be drawn down because of the high interest payments that would then apply.

  If some form of financial standing is required for the new permit regime, CTA could provide guidance on obtaining such a bank loan arrangement. The end result being that all community transport operators have to pay simple cost element to cover the arrangement fee.

24 May 2006





 
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