Select Committee on Transport Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 300-306)

MR TIM O'TOOLE, MR HUGH SUMNER, MR KEITH MILLS AND MR WILBEN SHORT

26 OCTOBER 2005

  Q300 Mr Leech: Just a follow-on. Do you have any rough figures of how many people you do expect to go to the Olympic Village by bike? What sort of provision is going to be made for security of bikes?

  Mr Sumner: Off the top of my head I cannot recall the precise numbers, but both the northern and southern transport malls for spectators have been designed with secure cycle facilities to be built as part of the Games. However, cycling also extends into the construction period as well so we will be working with the LDA to see if we can encourage cycling for those people who are constructing the venues, not just during the Games themselves for spectators.

  Q301 Chairman: I think what concerns us also is security. How are you going to reassure the public they are going to be safe?

  Mr Mills: Madam Chairman, we have some extremely robust security plans in place. Having said that, we live in an ever-changing world in security terms. I think we are fortunate in London to have probably the best security services in the world and they impressed the IOC enormously when they came to London in February. I do not think anybody would expect anything other than enormous attention to detail and planning at a level for an event like the Games that we probably have not seen before.

  Q302 Chairman: It is the co-ordination, I think, that concerns us. Are you convinced that all the services will be co-ordinated in such a way which will mean they can demonstrate effectively what they are doing?

  Mr Mills: Yes I am. I think we have demonstrated in London historically the ability to co-ordinate all of the security services effectively. The ultimate responsibility for security in the Games will be the Home Secretary and under him a series of bodies that will co-ordinate their various elements of security. A Security Secretariat is being established with LOCOG and the Home Office. We are very confident that security at a London Olympic Games will be at the highest.

  Q303 Graham Stringer: Just on that point, people, quite rightly, think about security and terrorism when there are major events like this going on, but there is also the issue of low-level security. The Olympic Games are a bonanza for pickpockets and other criminal activities. What plans are being made to deal with the fact that not only spectators will arrive but all the best pickpockets in Europe will probably want to come to London in 2012?

  Mr Mills: I hope not.

  Q304 Graham Stringer: Well, what are you going to do beyond hope?

  Mr Mills: Okay, we have a significant security budget for in-venue security so within the Olympic Park and within Olympic venues our own private security services will be available and they will supplemented obviously by the Metropolitan Police in London and the Police Services in the other parts of the country that are affected. In terms of detailed day-to-day security plans, we are some way off from producing those but I think we are confident that given the experience we have in this country that we would be able to cope with those sorts of issues.

  Q305 Graham Stringer: Would you follow the Barcelona model where the pickpockets and other undesirables were taken off to Las Ramblas and other parts and driven out of Barcelona?

  Mr Mills: I think that is a matter for the police, not for LOCOG.

  Q306 Chairman: As long as you keep them south of the river, I do not mind! You heard what Mr Sloman said about having enough time to test it properly where they discovered they had a gap with people who did not know how to drive round Sydney because they came from out of the area. What amount of testing to you expect to do and how much is that buffer zone going to represent safety?

  Mr Mills: I did indeed hear Mr Sloman, and we have worked very closely with Mr Sloman over the last year or two and drawn on his considerable experience. One of the things he also said this morning, which is important, is that in the case of Sydney and certainly in the case of Athens the start they made on many of their projects was left until too late so the buffer zone and the ability to test systems and processes and in the case of transport, networks and infrastructures were left very much to the last minute. I think, as my colleagues here have explained, many or most of the significant transport upgrades are already in the process of being made. I think we are very confident that we have built in sufficient buffer time to our transport plans to ensure that during Games time they stand up to the pressures that the Games will bring.

  Chairman: Gentlemen, we are very grateful to you. I have enjoyed it. It has been very interesting. I hope you will understand if I say I hope you do not have to come back here and explain to me what you did wrong. Thank you very much indeed.





 
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