Select Committee on Treasury Written Evidence


Note from the Clerk of the House of Commons

INTRODUCTION

  1.  This note is submitted in response to a request from the Sub-Committee for the views of the Clerk's Department on the issues raised in paragraphs 4.40 and 4.41 of HM Treasury's consultation document of March 2006 entitled Independence for Statistics. In relation to paragraph 4.40, I have consulted the Journal Office, which is the office in my department that has responsibility for the processes and procedures for the laying of papers before the House; and in relation to paragraph 4.41, I have consulted the Table Office, as the office responsible for dealing with parliamentary questions.

LAYING OF ANNUAL REPORT (PARAGRAPH 4.40)

  2.  The Government proposes that the board of the new Office for National Statistics would be required to publish an annual report which "would be laid before Parliament directly by the board, rather than via a Minister." Papers may be laid before the House of Commons only by a Member (generally a Minister) or by the Clerk of the House "where there is no directly relevant ministerial responsibility." [3]There is therefore no current procedure by which the new body's annual reports could be laid before Parliament directly by the board.

  3.  In the past the categories of papers laid by the Clerk of the House have been relatively few. They have included the reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General (the National Audit Office) and of the Parliamentary Commissioner for Administration (the Ombudsman), both of whom are officers of the House; certain papers generated within the House (such as the Sessional Returns); and Church Measures.

  4.  Recently I have agreed also to lay reports from certain health bodies where the Act required that they be laid before being provided to the Secretary of State[4], and from the Information Commissioner in the light of the independent status of his office. In principle, I would be willing to lay reports from the new Office of National Statistics, provided that it was established with an equivalent independence from Government. In that context, I note that the consultation document proposes that the body should be established as a Non-Ministerial Department; and its staff will continue to be civil servants (paragraphs 4.11 and 4.13). It would appear that a large proportion of statistics will continue to be produced in government departments and agencies rather than in ONS itself (paragraphs 2.6 and 4.35-4.37). I note also that the annual reports of other Non-Ministerial Departments (such as those mentioned as comparators in paragraph 4.11) are laid by government Ministers. But the question of the independence of the statistics office under the system proposed in the consultation document is no doubt central to the Sub-Committee's inquiry. I would obviously want to take account of the Sub-Committee's conclusions on that issue before making a firm commitment.

PARLIAMENTARY QUESTIONS (PARAGRAPH 4.41)

  5.  Paragraph 4.41 of the consultation document outlines the existing arrangements. If the answer to a Question falls within the responsibility of the National Statistician it is given by letter from the ONS to the Member concerned. The answering Minister sets out the text of the letter in his or her reply to the Question (which is thus printed in the Official Report).

  6.  The consultation document suggests that these arrangements might continue after the ONS becomes a statutorily independent body. It suggests an alternative: that "formally presenting such statistical answers to each House could be done via the Chairs of the committees responsible for statistical matters". This would, I think, raise some practical problems.

  7.  First, a judgement must be made as to whether the answer to a Question falls partly or entirely within the responsibility of the National Statistician. If Questions continue to be addressed to Ministers, then Ministers make that judgement, answering Questions to the extent that they are responsible, and referring the remainder to the National Statistician. If, on the other hand, Questions were to be tabled to Chairmen of Committees, any part of the answer which was thought to be outside the responsibilities of the National Statistician could not be given in this way, but would have to be sought by a further Question to the responsible Minister.

  8.  Second, the role suggested in the consultation paper would place Chairmen in an equivocal position. Although a fully independent ONS would not be a Ministerial creature, it would be very odd to have representatives of a Select Committee system whose purpose includes the scrutiny of such bodies taking responsibility in the House for information supplied by the ONS. Some, perhaps most, Chairmen might be reluctant to be put in such a position.

  9.  Third, it is easy to imagine a situation where the reference of a Question to the National Statistician for reply might be politically contentious—for example, if a Member believed that the responsibility lay with Ministers and that this was tantamount to avoiding an answer. This could put the Chairman of the relevant Committee in an invidious and embarrassing position.

  10.  Overall, the alternative answering route suggested in the consultation paper would at the least be cumbersome, but might also have considerable practical disadvantages. It would seem preferable to keep the present arrangements in place. Using the convenience of a ministerial PQ to get information from the statistics office into the public domain would not in itself call into question the independence of the office; and a reply formula might be devised which made that clear.

  11.  The Sub-Committee might wish to consider whether there should be a means of direct Parliamentary questioning on broad matters of policy and funding, rather than the operational matters dealt with above. This exists in the case of the National Audit Office (through the Chairman of the Public Accounts Commission) and of the Electoral Commission (through the representative of the Speaker's Committee). However, no such arrangements exist for the Non-Ministerial Departments listed in paragraph 4.11 of the consultation paper (the Food Standards Agency, the Charity Commission and independent regulators such as Ofsted). If a means of questioning on strategic ONS issues were required, then a Member able to answer in the House on such matters would presumably need to be a member of the Board described in paragraphs 4.17ff of the consultation paper.

Roger Sands

Clerk of the House



3   Erskine May's Parliamentary Practice, 23rd edition, page 262. Back

4   Health and Social Care (Community Health and Standards) Act 2003, Schedule 2, paragraph 11. Back


 
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