Select Committee on Treasury Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 117-119)

PROFESSOR DAVID RHIND, SIR DEREK WANLESS AND MR RICHARD ALLDRITT

7 JUNE 2006

  Q117 Chairman: Could I welcome Professor Rhind and his colleagues back to the Sub-Committee. Could you introduce yourselves formally, please.

  Professor Rhind: Thank you, Chairman. I am David Rhind, the Chairman of the Statistics Commission. On my left is Sir Derek Wanless, the Deputy Chair, and on my right Richard Alldritt, the Chief Executive of the Statistics Commission.

  Q118  Chairman: Thank you very much and thank you for coming to assist us. David Rhind, Simon Briscoe told us that the proposals looked "shambolic" and were possibly a cover for removing too energetic a Statistics Commission. Do you share that view?

  Professor Rhind: The Statistics Commission, as we have said to you earlier, Chairman, has always sought to make points without worrying too much about whether we became terribly popular. I think Simon Briscoe's view is a somewhat colourful view of the circumstances. In 2004 we made a report on the case for legislation and we proposed three models that we thought could work. Our favoured model actually involved our own abolition and replacement by a statutory commission, so I do not think we feel very precious about this. As to the reasons for our removal, I think that is a matter for newspapers to speculate on.

  Q119  Chairman: But the solution the Government have come up with is not your solution. Is it better than having no solution?

  Professor Rhind: The model they have come up with is a variant on our third choice model, which we believe could be made to work. I think it would be fair to say that the Commission still believes that an independent scrutiny role would be cleaner and more easily believed to be independent than the model that the Treasury has come up with. That said, we think the model can be made to work, providing the very real tensions that are involved in this are recognised and the structure is set up in the right way.


 
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