Select Committee on Treasury Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 80-91)

DR ANDREW SENTANCE

12 OCTOBER 2006

  Q80  Mr Newmark: Just focussing on M4, in your opinion what is the recent rise in M4 telling us about the future path of inflation?

  Dr Sentance: It is telling us that there has been an accumulation of money in the economy that could feed into spending in the future. This accumulation has taken place in these other financial institutions and there is a bit of uncertainty—

  Q81  Mr Newmark: They will feed in because private equity firms, for example, or even a pension fund, has to put that money to work at some stage.

  Dr Sentance: We saw in the late 1980s quite high money supply growth and perhaps did not put enough weight on it in that time, so we should try to learn the lessons from that. On the hand, there were situations in the early 1980s when money supply growth was quite strong and yet other indicators that real economy was pointing in the opposite direction. All I was trying to do was counsel about putting too much weight on one indicator and rather to look at it alongside other, more direct measures of the rate of growth of demand.

  Q82  Mr Newmark: Do you see the growth in M4 raising a red flag at least with respect to inflation down the road?

  Dr Sentance: I think it is a risk. I think it is raising an amber light but I would want to see other confirmatory data before putting a lot of weight on it.

  Q83  Angela Eagle: Obviously Mr Newmark is trying to kick the monetarist corpse alive and you seem to be saying that you are not really a theoretical monetarist, you are more of a pragmatic man when it comes to looking at economic data.

  Dr Sentance: I think I would agree with that broad assessment. I am not a theoretical monetarist certainly, but I think that any pragmatic person would also look back at some of the instances we have had before when we perhaps did not put enough weight on money data, for example in the late 1980s. Your pragmatism can point you in different directions depending on what the evidence is.

  Q84  Angela Eagle: Can you bear to look at all the evidence rather than cling to one particular theory, however outmoded or outdated it might be?

  Dr Sentance: Yes, I think the difference schools of thought and different frameworks for analysing the economy does tend to be a bit exaggerated, particularly at the moment. There has been quite a bit of convergence in thinking, a sort of synthesis—

  Q85  Angela Eagle: A post neo-classical synthesis.

  Dr Sentance: I am not sure about that, but what I have observed is when you talk with other economists people are generally using a common framework and I think that is very helpful for an organisation like the MPC where we come together and bring our different judgments. At least there are no large theoretical differences underpinning our discussions; that has certainly been my experience.

  Q86  Angela Eagle: Could you just share with us the sorts of things that would keep you awake at night? What are the major downside worries or risks on the downside that you think, looking at the current position that we are in, that would worry you, that you would be watching for?

  Dr Sentance: I think the thing that has to keep you awake at night if you are a member of the Monetary Policy Committee is not keeping inflation close to its target level and allowing it to deviate significantly either in one direction or another.

  Q87  Angela Eagle: That is the job direction, but what do you see looking out there?

  Dr Sentance: In any particular circumstance there will be different things causing me to worry. Your question is probably directing me to the things I am worried about at the moment. I think on the upside in terms of inflation there is the risk that if we have continuing inflation running above the target level that does begin to be factored into wage increase and I think that is a significant worry that we need to reassure ourselves on. The data so far has been relatively reassuring; the earnings data has been relatively steady but we need to keep a watch on that. On the downside I think probably the US economy is probably the major worry at the moment. On the forecasts that we currently have the US economy is going to have a slowdown and we are seeing stronger growth in other areas, so based on the evidence we have at the moment it does not seem a massive risk. However, sometimes when weaker indicators start coming through they get followed by even weaker ones, so on the downside I think that is probably the biggest concern at the moment.

  Q88  Chairman: It has been pointed out that one of your big interests is politics. Are you intending to jump the desk at any time?

  Dr Sentance: I have tried to stay out of party politics in the various things that I have done. I am very interested in the political process and policy and the real world application of economics to policy question, but I do not have any party political interests.

  Q89  Chairman: In terms of research projects, do you have any?

  Dr Sentance: It is early stages but I have mentioned a couple of things that interest me at present. One is the way in which survey data can be used based on my experience in the CBI in helping to understand the short term trends of the economy. The second is this whole issue of structural change, particularly driven by globalisation and international practice.

  Q90  Chairman: As Andy mentioned, we are interested in globalisation in this Committee.

  Dr Sentance: I would be happy to discuss those with you in the future.

  Q91  Chairman: Dr Sentance, thank you very much for your evidence to us this morning. Best wishes in your MPC work in the future.

  Dr Sentance: Thank you very much for the opportunity to talk with you.





 
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