Select Committee on Treasury Written Evidence


Supplementary memorandum submitted by Citizens Advice

Q33  11 January 2006—Telephone records

  Following our oral evidence session on 11 January, Citizens Advice has received some feedback from Citizens Advice Bureaux which have recently been successful in obtaining records of telephone conversations between clients and the Tax Credits Office (TCO) helpline.

  The phone records received by bureaux prove that their clients reported changes of circumstances and queried errors despite having been told by the TCO that their overpayment could not be written off because they failed to report these things.

  In one case, the CD sent to the client held recordings of the 17 calls they made to advise of the change and recorded the helpline adviser saying that the change was being noted.

  In another case, the dispute concerned the timing of when the claimant reported a rise in her income. She was keen to ensure an up-to-date income figure was used, before she started to receive tax credits in April 2003, and on advice she completed three applications. When asked to look into the recovery of the overpayment, the Overpayment Disputes Team advised that she did not report the change until June 2004. The client was nevertheless sent a CD with recordings of pre April-2003 phone conversations about the income change.

  These cases raise the important question of what records the overpayments disputes team look at when deciding whether or not a claimant has reported a change when they say they have. Full investigations instigated by Citizens Advice Bureaux find that records held by the TCO fully support the claimant's account, but have not been checked before the TCO concludes that no report has been made.

  If HMRC are to continue to use the reasonableness test in deciding on the facts of a case, it is essential that they take into account all the information available to them.

Q323  February 1 2006 PMG evidence—HMRC working with Citizens Advice

  In 2004-05 Citizens Advice Bureaux across England, Wales and Northern Ireland advised on 140,000 tax credit problems. Bureaux are also able to send in separate information, when they advise on cases which raise particular issues for public policy. In the past two years Citizens Advice has received more than 12,000 such reports from bureaux about tax credit problems.

  The figure of 12,000 referred to by the Paymaster General appears to refer to the number of these separate information reports, which is a small subset of the overall number of tax credit enquiries received by Citizens Advice Bureaux.

  Both these figures were given in the report published jointly with Citizens Advice Scotland in June 2005. The following paragraphs are taking from the summary of the report Money with your name on it? and describe the impact of tax credits work on CAB advice work, as shown in this extract:

    13.  The scale of the problems faced by clients, and the difficulties our advisers have had in resolving even relatively simple errors and problems, have been very substantial. It is noticeable that tax credit problems are causing disproportionate levels of concern amongst our clients and advisers. Bureaux have been asked to advise on around 150,000 client problems with tax credits in the year from April 2004 to the end of March 2005. In the past two years, Citizens Advice has received more than 12,000 reports and complaints about problems with tax credits from bureaux.

    14.  Whilst this is not an extraordinary number of client problems (compared with almost two million benefit problems bureaux deal with each year, or 500,000 employment-related problems), CAB advisers are saying that tax credits is their number one policy concern. This appears to be because tax credit cases are extremely complex and advisers find resolving them time-consuming. Also in many cases the problems facing their clients are often very serious indeed.

INNOVATIVE WAYS OF WORKING

  Citizens Advice is currently discussing with HMRC a number of pilot projects aimed at helping speed the resolution of tax credit problems. These include:

    —    Providing access for CAB advisers to the difficult cases team in the Tax Credit Office.

  This would enable advisers to speak to someone with direct access to the claimants' records, who would be able to deal with the case until the difficulties were resolved. We think this is an option that would be of great benefit to clients, who currently often find themselves speaking with a helpline adviser who is simply not able to progress their case. This would enable difficult cases to be dealt with more efficiently and save time for both CAB advisers and HMRC staff.

    —    Tax credit surgeries in Citizens Advice Bureaux run by HMRC staff.

  The aim is for HMRC to provide a face-to-face service in Citizens Advice Bureaux, possibly including providing services in CAB outreach services. Initial very small-scale pilots would be evaluated with a view to more widespread use of surgeries, identifying resource implications and organisational issues. Citizens Advice has identified several bureaux in the North and North West England who will enter into discussion with the Revenue. We are also discussing pilot working in Scotland and Northern Ireland. Bureaux will be keen to maintain an independent and confidential service to clients. We will shortly be arranging meetings between interested bureaux and HMRC to discuss how these pilots might work.

    —    Secondment of HMRC staff to Citizens Advice Specialist Support Unit.

  The Specialist Support Unit provides further advice and casework assistance to Citizens Advice Bureaux which have been unable to resolve cases or require more specialist input. Our initial preferred option was for HMRC to fund a dedicated tax credit specialist in the Unit. Further discussions are due to take place on how a secondment into the unit would work.

  All these proposed pilots are in the early stages of discussion.

February 2006





 
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