Select Committee on Treasury Written Evidence


Memorandum submitted by adviceUK

ABOUT ADVICEUK

  adviceUK is a UK wide trade association with about 1,000 independent advice centres in membership, thus making it the largest UK advice network. Of these, about 350 members give debt advice to the public and collectively we estimate that they dealt with 250,000 people with debt problems in 2004-05. Our core role is the provision of organisational support focused on the management and delivery of advice services. We have pioneered new approaches to advice agency networking, development and training.

  Our membership is highly diverse, with both large and small independent agencies: some serving large inner-city areas and others serving small rural communities. Some provide the only advice service in their area and take all types of enquiries while others specialise in serving a particular community or in advising on a particular subject such as housing, consumer rights or debt advice.

  The majority of our members provide advice at the Legal Services Commission General Help levels, although significant numbers hold not-for-profit LSC contracts.

  Working with our membership, our aim is to ensure access to good quality information and advice services enabling people to fully achieve, protect and exercise their rights.

  We provide organisational support and co-ordination to our member organisations. We represent their interests at UK, national and regional levels and we provide a voice in policy making. We also engage and work closely with other similar organisations in our sector, with other national organisations in the wider voluntary and community sector, with relevant private sector concerns and with national and local government.

  65% of client seeking advice from AUK members are in socio-economic categories D and E, with over 50% of our members located in the Social Exclusion Units list of the 44 most deprived or poorest boroughs. 25% of our members have a black or ethnic minority focus.

1.   Access to banking services

  On the whole, we believe that the initiatives taken by Government and in particular the banking industry have made very significant progress in reducing the number of households in the UK without access to a bank account. In our view the empirical evidence, in terms of the rapid decline in the number of unbanked, suggests that the banks have made great efforts to provide banking services, whether basic bank accounts or "normal" accounts to those that want/need them. We fully understand that the banks do not really want to do business with the type of customers who need/want a basic bank account on the basis that there is apparently no commercial imperative but despite this they have offered the basic bank account to customers in enormous numbers. In short, almost anyone who wants or needs a bank account can get one, which was not perhaps previously the case.

  Obviously, the biggest single driver to increasing the number of unbanked has been the decision by Government to require benefit payments to be made into bank accounts rather than any other reason. Despite this, it has to be accepted that there will always be a percentage of the public who will never have an account or any sort. The basic bank account itself has proved popular with customers and appears to be sufficiently regulated given the regulatory burden already placed on banks by the FSA.

  We remain concerned that in a very small minority of occasions customers are put off opening basic bank accounts either because staff in braches do not have sufficient information about them or because of confusion in the minds of staff over the ID requirements of the Money Laundering Directive. Given the lack of staff training devoted by banks to these products, this is perhaps inevitable.

  We also appreciate that branch closures have reduced access to banking services to a relatively small minority of the population, particularly in rural areas. To some extent the huge growth in chip/pin facilities in rural pubs, shops and cafe's does allow free "cashback" facilities where previously no banking facilities had previously existed. We also appreciate the concerns of many about the growth in fee charging ATM's, especially for those on low incomes to whom any charge equates to a substantial percentage of their income. However, it would appear that many of these machines are been placed in areas where there have never been any banking facilities and we would question the assertion of made that they are necessarily a retrograde step.

2.   Access to affordable credit

  adviceUK appreciates the simple economic reality that households excluded from "mainstream" credit will inevitably pay more if they want to borrow money. This is particularly the case where poorer people want to borrow relatively small sums (less than £1,000) over short periods because costs and risks are higher leading to higher interest rates. It is also clear from research carried out by Prof Elaine Kempson from the University of Bristol Personal Finance Research Centre ("Affordable Credit for Low Income Households") that many of the features that low income borrowers want from "ideal source of credit" are met by weekly collected licensed moneylenders such as the Provident. Although we appreciate the benefits of Credit Unions and Community Development Finance Institutions for the tiny minority of people who use their services, the reality is that in the foreseeable future their impact will be negligible. Unfortunately the £36 million from the DWP Growth Fund will not change this reality.

  We would argue that the way forward for these social lending institutions is perhaps working alongside the major financial institutions but given the reluctance of mainstream lenders and indeed perhaps many credit Unions/CDFI's in the UK to work together there appears to be little prospect of this without legislation which forces the issue. We do not support the idea of a cap on unsecured interest rates and would be happy to provide further information on this area if it would be helpful. In short, although CU/CDFI's are seen as the great hope for the financially excluded, as it stands at present, despite the small sum allocated for the Growth Fund, their impact will still only ever be limited.

  Interest Free Loans from the Social Fund appear to work well for the small number who can actually successfully obtain a loan. Evidence from our members suggests that the major problems associated with the Fund are that it is difficult to access, the process is too beaucratic and complicated, thus it takes too long, is too intrusive of personal information and the repayments are too high, especially as they are deducted at source from benefit.

  Anecdotal evidence suggests that many people would rather borrow from commercial lenders because of these drawbacks. It is impossible to imagine any Government Department being prepared to lend to people in the same way as the commerce lenders operating in this market. In our view Government should examine how it can work with the Consumer Credit Association, third sector lenders and its members to offer a lower cost lending to those people who need to borrow.

  Unfortunately, the HMT Financial Inclusion Taskforce appears to lack the will and consensus to begin this debate which we would argue is at the heart of the issue of low cost lending. In our view, Government can only achieve the stated aim of making low cost borrowing more widely available by very significant and costly intervention in the market.

3.   Financial Education and access to Financial advice

  Over recent years there has been a very considerable and costly focus on issues related to increasing financial literacy and financial education generally in order to increase the public's level of "financial capability". The aim of increasing the publics level of financial capability appears to be perceived as an unquestionably "good thing" but in our view there are a number of concerns about the reliance on these initiatives to solve the problems of the financially excluded. It is generally recognised that the national strategy for financial capability is a very long term project, indeed the Chair of the FSA has said that it will take a generation before we see any benefits. There appears to be no real debate about whether in reality the public at large can ever realistically be made more financially educated, particularly given the complex and ever changing nature of the financial products in the market. The is also an argument which suggests that it is the advice and sales process as well as the products themselves which should be tightly regulated by the FSA as it is impossible for ordinary people to ever really understand the complexities of many of the products on offer. The overwhelming majority of mis-selling scandals of the last 10 years or so would almost certainly not have been prevented even if the public was more financially literate as it was flaws in the sales process and product design which led to misselling of products, combined with commission driven sales which led to mis-selling. It is doubtful to say the least if consumer education would have prevented these scandals.

  In our view, the FSA etc needs to have a much more strategic campaign on 2-3 key messages for consumers in order to have some short term impact on consumer financial literacy. A good example would be to try to persuade consumers to shop around for products in order to get the best deal as too few consumers at present appreciate the significant financial benefits of choosing the best value products.

  In our view there is a misplaced confidence in the benefits of Financial Education to eradicate financial exclusion, increase saving and pension contributions and to deliver greater public understanding of financial services. We would urge the committee to open re-open the debate on the costs and benefits of this whole approach.

  The advice sector, both in the not for profit and commercial sectors dispenses a great deal of generic financial advice about debt and related issues, rather than on financial services generally. Almost all of the clients seeking advice from our members on financial services do so in relation to personal debt rather than in relation to savings or generic financial advice. In short, our members provide an Accident and Emergency Service for people with debt problems. Whilst some of our members are engaged in projects which look at financial capability, on the whole there are few who would claim to provide generic financial advice. In order for the not for profit advice sector to have a role in this type of advice, we will require very considerable additional funding.

4.   Incentives and barriers to saving for people on below average incomes

  The evidence from our members if that there is demand for easily accessible and simple savings products even from people on very low incomes but the market has provided very few suitable products to meet the needs of those on low incomes. It is self evident that people on low incomes have only small and irregular sums to save and often only manage to save any money at all to cover forthcoming items of expenditure such as utility bills. There is no evidence of reluctance or lack of will to save amongst the poorest in society, only the surplus income with which to do so. In a similar way, many people on low incomes realise the necessity of having contents or home insurance but lack the income to pay for such cover.

  In terms of longer term savings such as pensions, again lack of income makes it impossible for people of moderate incomes to make meaningful contributions. In addition, those on low incomes are simply not seen as profitable by either IFA's or product providers as the amount they can afford to invest is simply insufficient to make the level of profit they require.

5.   The role of the Government, FSA and other bodies/organisations promoting financial inclusion

  adviceUK has a member of staff, Nick Pearson, who sits on the Financial Inclusion Taskforce. We are concerned that the Taskforce meets only four times a year, with a limited remit and thus does not have the time or resources to drive the strategies for allocating monies or formulating/implementing policies. The Terms of Reference for the Taskforce, albeit limited in vision, are considerable in themselves and it is difficult to envisage the Taskforce making significant progress given the lack of time available for meetings etc.

  In terms of the use of resources from the HMT Financial Inclusion Fund we have attached to this document a recent letter to Gerry Sutcliffe which outlines our concerns in relation to the Financial Inclusion Fund. We are also concerned about the short term nature of the funding on face to face advice and would suggest now is the time for HMT and DTI to revisit the issue of a levy on the financial services sector to fund on an ongoing basis an expansion of face to face debt advice in the not for profit sector.

6.   The benefits of financial inclusion and the extent to which financial inclusion measures can contribute to combating poverty and reducing barriers to employment

  Whilst we believe that initiatives such as increasing access to banks account and lower cost credit are generally a good thing, we have seen no evidence to suggest that the measures currently being used to combat financial exclusion have any impact on reducing the overall level of relative poverty or barriers to employment.

January 2006





 
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