Select Committee on Treasury Written Evidence


Letter from Alliance & Leicester to the Post Office Ltd[26]

  Thank you for your letter of 16 May. Before I respond to your specific points, I would like to set out some context.

  Alliance & Leicester has been at the forefront of helping consumers to get free access to cash. Our customers have for many years had free access to cash at all Post Office counters and we have worked closely with you on a wide range of initiatives which have improved consumers' ability to use Post Offices and also the Post Office's ability to generate revenues—including being the first bank to sign up to support the Post Office Current Account.

  Regarding ATMs specifically, the Treasury Select Committee last year commented that "machines which charge consumers are a legitimate business model. Their introduction has increased the overall availability of cash withdrawals and helped sustain small businesses." Our ATM policy is entirely consistent with that conclusion. We operate non-surcharging machines when the traffic for the site enables us to make an economic return on the considerable costs of installing and operating a machine and, further, all of our machines are free-to-use for Alliance & Leicester customers. As a consequence, we have a network of non-surcharging ATMs across the UK far larger than would be anticipated given the size of our branch network. However, for those potential sites which do not have sufficient traffic, we take the view that it is better to provide consumers with choice by operating surcharging machines rather than simply not providing a machine at all.

  This policy also underpins the agreement between us governing the provision of our ATMs in Post Offices, which we continue to follow in good faith. This allows the type of machine and the fee charged to alter to reflect changing conditions, a point which was clearly understood by the Post Office when the agreement was signed.

  Turning to your specific points, the increase in surcharge from £1.50 to £1.75 applies across our charging estate. It reflects market conditions, is in line with market norms and represents a balance between obtaining a return on the costs of running the machines, the requirements of our site owners and the benefit of convenience those machines provide for consumers. The majority of the fee, and the majority of the increase, becomes revenue for the site owner, in this case the Post Office or sub-postmaster.

  As regards the 45 sites which were previously non-surcharging, consumer usage at each of these sites is too low to provide a non-surcharging machine economically. A joint team from Alliance & Leicester and the Post Office discussed this at some length, seeking to improve the economics of those sites without switching them to surcharging, but alternative possibilities—for example the Post Office taking responsibility for filling the machines with cash—were deemed unacceptable by the Post Office.

  As the current Agreement covering our ATMs in Post Offices comes to an end, you will be transferring sites at which you wish to operate a non-surcharging machine to the Bank of Ireland, and—subject to the granting of a waiver from you—individual sub-postmasters in other locations will be able to negotiate their own ATM arrangements. Our respective teams are working hard on this transition, and we have already agreed in principle a schedule to enable this complex programme of change to proceed smoothly. However, we are always happy to discuss changes to the schedule and, indeed, we have already agreed with your team a number of sites where the removal of our machine will take place sooner than originally envisaged. If there is a desire for the specific 45 sites you mention to be expedited then we would gladly discuss a practical way to accelerate their removal from the network whilst bearing in mind the associated financials.

  Finally, I note your comment about the Restrictions Policy. As I understand it, the current plans are that those sub-postmasters who will not be provided with a non-surcharging machine will negotiate their own ATM arrangements. I am sure that they will make their choice giving full consideration to their business needs and the needs of their customers. If it does not make commercial sense for them to have a machine, they can choose whether to operate one at a loss or not to offer the service to their customers at all.

  I hope this has addressed your concerns. I understand from Graham Halliday that you have sent your letter to the Treasury Select Committee, and I am doing the same with this response.

May 2006






26   A copy of the Post Office's letter to Alliance and Leicester can be found at Ev 439. Back


 
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