Select Committee on Welsh Affairs Minutes of Evidence


Written evidence from Chris Ruane MP

  I am writing about the issue of dual candidacy. I am aware that the Welsh Affairs Committee is holding an Inquiry into Better Governance for Wales. I understand that one of the issues you will be looking at is dual candidacy. This is an issue that concerns many MPs I believe that this is a cross-Party issue—and I would like to submit the following evidence to the Committee.

  "I am sure that many in Wales will welcome the removal of the absurd dual candidacy opportunity".

    Lord Carlile of Berriew, Former Leader of the Welsh Liberal Democrats, Hansard, 15 June 2005.

  "The present arrangements are really pretty indefensible".

    Lord Crickhowell, Former Secretary of State for Wales, Hansard, 15 June 2005.

  "The proposed voting system quite correctly takes on board the Richard commission critique. There is no question that it is a "duff" system as regards first-pass-the-post and regional members."

    Lord Livsey, Liberal Democrat Spokesman on Welsh Affairs, Hansard, 15 June 2005.

  "The system as operated . . . has led to a confusing and expensive proliferation of `parliamentary' offices throughout the country. In at least one town there are four. . .They have become a thinly disguised subsidy from the taxpayer for the local party machines . . . In my view they are a serious waste of public money."

    Sir David Steel, Former Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament,

Lecture, Edinburgh Book Festival, 18 August 2003.

  "Quite the most distasteful and irritating part of my job as Presiding Officer was dealing with complaints against list Members' behaviour from constituency MSPs, Westminster MPs and local authorities . . . I could not understand at first why we had such problems, until it dawned on me that what some were determined to do was misuse their position to run a permanent 4-year campaign as candidate for a particular constituency. In most parliaments you do not have Members sitting in the same chamber or in committees who are going to be election opponents, and it does not make for a good working atmosphere."

    Sir David Steel, Former Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament,

Lecture, Edinburgh Book Festival, 18 August 2003.

  "The list system creates two different kinds of member—constituency and list. The constituency members feel that they carry the burden of the work involved in helping individual constitiuents and local groups with their problems. They complain that the list members either swan around cherry-picking some local issues or camp in their constituency, posing as an alternative constituency member."

    Donald Gorrie, Liberal Democrat MSP, Evidence to the Arbuthnott Commission.

  "Problems do arise especially where some list members promote themselves as `shadow members' for individual constituencies, often those they fought unsuccessfully in the first-past-the-post section of the election. Voters are often surprised that candidates soundly beaten in the constituency votes are then elected on the list—a reward for failure."

    Dr Derek Barrie, Chief of Staff, Scottish Liberal Democrats, Evidence to the Arbuthnott Commission.

THE CASE AGAINST STV

  "The more radical alternative of abandoning AMS seems unlikely to solve the perceived problems with the current system. In particular a move to STV for the Parliament, whilst putting all members on an equal footing, would almost certainly also greatly increase competition over local work. If a proportional system is to be maintained for the Parliament, AMS thus remains the least problematic option."

    Dr Jonathan Bradbury and Dr Meg Russell, University of Wales, Swansea/Constitution Unit,

Local Work of Scottish MPs and MSPs, May 2005.

  "With respect to local work . . . the problems generated by STV seem greater than the problems that it might seek to solve."

    Dr Jonathan Bradbury and Dr Meg Russell, University of Wales, Swansea/Constitution Unit,

Local Work of Scottish MPs and MSPs, May 2005.

ACADEMIC SUPPORT FOR BANNING DUAL CANDIDACY

  "A bar on members standing for list and constituency seats simultaneously in the Parliament is a . . . serious option and could be kept under review."

    Dr Jonathan Bradbury and Dr Meg Russell, University of Wales, Swansea/Constitution Unit,

Local Work of Scottish MPs and MSPs, May 2005.

  "Disallowing dual candidacy should not be viewed per se as a bizarre idea. In New Zealand, it was considered in the early 1990s ahead of AMS being introduced. In New Brunswick in Canada, current electoral reform proposals do rule out dual candidacy for the reason that both fellow representatives and constituents will consider it unfair that a member judged unpopular and voted out by constituents might still be elected as a list member at the behest of party."

    Dr Jonathan Bradbury and Dr Meg Russell, University of Wales, Swansea/Constitution Unit,

Local Work of Scottish MPs and MSPs, May 2005.

  "List MSP organisation of local representative work is frequently on a sub-region wide basis. This does sometimes involve a strong and extensive focus on a single constituency."

    Dr Jonathan Bradbury and Dr Meg Russell, University of Wales, Swansea/Constitution Unit,

Local Work of Scottish MPs and MSPs, May 2005.

  "Particularly given the distribution of seats under AMS in Scotland, there are clearly political interests for list members in offering local representation, and in targeting particular parts of the region where electoral support is likely to be greatest."

    Dr Jonathan Bradbury and Dr Meg Russell, University of Wales, Swansea/Constitution Unit,

Local Work of Scottish MPs and MSPs, May 2005.

LIMITATIONS OF GUIDANCE

  "The guidance could be viewed as an irritant, but where list members wanted to be particularly active at the local level and by no means all of them did it was easily met or ignored without constraining their intentions, particularly in the context of targeting a specific seat."

    Dr Jonathan Bradbury and Dr Meg Russell, University of Wales, Swansea/Constitution Unit,

Local Work of Scottish MPs and MSPs, May 2005.

QUOTES FROM THE LEANNE WOOD MEMO, AUGUST 2003

  "Deciding against casework as the main priority for regional AMs could mean the freeing up of staff resources . . . Could the AM employ someone for 2-3 days a week with the remaining time used by the party (locally or centrally) or another elected representative".

  "Each regional AM has an office budget and a staff budget of some considerable size. Consideration should be given to the location of their office—where would it be best for the region? Are there any target seats . . . within the region? If so, the office coul".

  "As a constituency AM for the Rhondda, Geraint Davies dealt with 2,500 cases over his four-year term. A very small proportion of those people indicated that they would be voting Plaid Cymru in telephone canvassing prior to the election. This begs the question".

  "We need to be thinking much more creatively as to how we better use staff budgets for furthering the aims of the party."

  "[Regional AMs] need not be constrained by constituency casework and events and can be more choosy about their engagements, only attending events which further the party's cause."

  "On receipt of every invitation, ask `How can my attendance at this event further the aims of Plaid Cymru?' If the answer is `very little' or `not at all', then a pro forma letter of decline should be in order."

INTERNATIONAL QUOTES

  "The Commission recommends that candidates not be able to present themselves in both a single member constituency and on a party list for the same election. The Commission heard that in some jurisdictions where candidates are able to run simultaneously on both ballots, voters are displeased with the case where a candidate is not successful in a single member constituency, but is elected anyway by virtue of being placed on the top of a party's list. This is a particularly salient issue if a closed list is adopted. The Commission is of the view that if a candidate chooses to run in a single member constituency, the voters in that constituency should determine whether that candidate is elected, and that there should be no back door to the legislature."

    New Brunswick Commission on Legislative Democracy

  "The majority . . . believed that candidates for Parliament should stand on either the list, or for an electorate, but not both. The principal reason for this was a sense of frustration amongst voters who, after voting out an unpopular electorate MP, saw that candidate returned to Parliament via. the list."

    New Zealand MMP Review Committee, 2003.

  "There was considerable general suspicion apparent in the qualitative research about list MPs' accountability and workload. Respondents during the qualitative research often described list MPs as `unelected'. One key criticism was that it was possible for MPs to be defeated in electorate contests but return to the House through their position on the list. 61% agreed and 15% disagreed that `list MPs are not as accountable to voters as electorate MPs'."

    "MMP: A Study of Public Attitudes", New Zealand MMP Review Committee, 2003.

  "New Zealand's dual candidacy list MPs who lose their ridings [constituencies] but are elected anyway suffer particular disdain. Many New Zealanders continue to resent their presence in Parliament, still more so in cabinet."

    Howard Cody, Electoral Reform Proposals in Quebec, Prince Edward Island and New Brunswick,

Canadian Parliamentary Review.

  "Typically, party elites favour this form of double inclusion, since it maximizes the chances for election of `star' candidates: if they fail to win in the constituency race, they can hedge their bets by securing a high ranking on the party's regional or provincial list. Some observers have criticized this favourable treatment of candidates who fail to win a constituency seat, arguing that it allows second-rank candidates to gain entry to the legislature through the back door."

    "Voting Counts: Electoral Reform for Canada", Law Commission of Canada, 2004.

31 October 2005





 
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