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House of Commons

 
 

Tuesday 5th June 2007

 

Public Bill Committee Proceedings

 

Concessionary Bus Travel Bill [Lords]


 

[first and second Sittings]


 

Gillian Merron

 

Agreed to

 

That—

 

(1)  

the Committee shall (in addition to its first meeting at 10.30 a.m. on Tuesday

 

5th June) meet—

 

(a)  

at 4.00 p.m. on Tuesday 5th June;

 

(b)  

at 9.00 a.m. and 1.00 p.m. on Thursday 7th June;

 

(2)  

the proceedings shall be taken in the following order: Clauses 1 to 5;

 

Schedule 1; Clauses 6 to 13; Schedules 2 and 3; Clauses 14 to 16; new

 

Clauses; new Schedules; remaining proceedings on the Bill;

 

(3)  

the proceedings shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a

 

conclusion at 4.00 p.m. on Thursday 7th June.

 


 

Gillian Merron

 

That, subject to the discretion of the Chairman, any written evidence received by the

 

Committee shall be reported to the House for publication.

 

Agreed to

 

Paul Rowen

 

Mr John Leech

 

Withdrawn  7

 

Clause  1,  page  1,  line  19,  at end insert—

 

‘(2A)    

The Secretary of State may by regulations make provision for the definition of

 

“eligible journey” to be extended to a journey on one train, underground train,

 

tram, ferry or community transport.’.


 
 

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Paul Rowen

 

Mr John Leech

 

Negatived on division  28

 

Clause  1,  page  1,  line  19,  at end insert—

 

‘(2A)    

If a disabled person is unable to access mainstream public transport as a result of

 

the person’s impairment the travel concession authority in England shall mark

 

that clearly on the permit.

 

(2B)    

Where a person whose current statutory travel concession permit is marked in

 

accordance with subsection (2A) the person shall be entitled to a waiver of the

 

fare for a journey when using a dial a ride vehicle, community transport service,

 

Hackney carriage vehicle or other door to door transport.

 

(2C)    

The Secretary of State shall issue guidance to travel concession authorities in

 

England to which they shall have regard in determining for the purposes of

 

subsection (2A) whether a disabled person needs to travel by door to door

 

transport.

 

(2D)    

Before issuing guidance under subsection (2C), the Secretary of State shall

 

consult—

 

(a)    

the Disabled Persons Transport Advisory Committee;

 

(b)    

associations representative of travel concession authorities; and

 

(c)    

such other persons as the Secretary of State thinks fit.’.

 

Paul Rowen

 

Mr John Leech

 

 

Not called  31

 

Clause  1,  page  1,  line  19,  at end insert—

 

‘(2A)    

The Secretary of State may by regulations make provision for the definition of

 

“eligible journey” to exclude services which are primarily for the purposes of

 

tourism.’.

 

Paul Rowen

 

Mr John Leech

 

 

Not called  32

 

Clause  1,  page  1,  line  19,  at end insert—

 

‘(2A)    

The Secretary of State may by regulations make provision for the definition of

 

“eligible journey” to exclude services which have limited stops or are not

 

primarily local services.’.

 

Paul Rowen

 

Mr John Leech

 

Not called  8

 

Clause  1,  page  2,  line  11,  at end insert—

 

‘(4A)    

If a disabled person requires the assistance of a companion to travel on journeys

 

on public transport services, the travel concession authority in England other than

 

a London authority must mark that clearly on the permit.

 

(4B)    

Where a person whose current statutory travel concession permit is marked in

 

accordance with subsection (4A) is entitled under this section to a waiver of the

 

fare for a journey, one companion travelling on the journey with the person (and

 

nominated by the person as the person’s companion for that journey) is also

 

entitled to a waiver of the fare for the journey.

 

(4C)    

The Secretary of State shall issue guidance to travel concession authorities in

 

England to which they must have regard in determining for subsection (4A)

 

whether a disabled person needs a companion in order to travel.’.


 
 

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Concessionary Bus Travel Bill[ [], continued

 
 

Paul Rowen

 

Mr John Leech

 

Not called  10

 

Clause  1,  page  2,  line  11,  at end insert—

 

‘(4A)    

For the purposes of this section a person whose ability to travel is impaired by a

 

mental disorder within the meaning of section 1 of the Mental Health Act 1983

 

shall be considered to be a disabled person.’.

 

Paul Rowen

 

Mr John Leech

 

Withdrawn  11

 

Clause  1,  page  2,  line  11,  at end insert—

 

‘(4A)    

The Secretary of State may by regulations make provision for persons aged 17

 

years and under and those in full time education to be entitled to the concession

 

specified in subsection (1).’.

 

Stephen Hammond

 

Mr Lee Scott

 

Andrew Rosindell

 

Withdrawn  17

 

Clause  1,  page  2,  line  17,  at end insert ‘, and

 

(c)    

as is compliant with the ITSO standard, as detailed under Crown

 

copyright in 2004.’.

 

Paul Rowen

 

Mr John Leech

 

Not called  9

 

Clause  1,  page  2,  line  22,  leave out ‘subsection (6)’ and insert ‘subsections (4C)

 

and (6).’.

 

Stephen Hammond

 

Mr Lee Scott

 

Andrew Rosindell

 

Not called  15

 

Clause  1,  page  3,  line  2,  at end add—

 

‘(12)    

Two years after the commencement of this Act the Secretary of State shall

 

conduct a review of the definition of an “eligible service” and shall lay before

 

Parliament a report setting out his findings.’.

 

Stephen Hammond

 

Mr Lee Scott

 

Andrew Rosindell

 

Paul Rowen

 

Mr John Leech

 

Not called  18

 

Clause  1,  page  3,  line  2,  at end add—

 

‘(12)    

The Secretary of State shall by regulations specify arrangements for the purposes

 

of fraud prevention.

 

(13)    

Regulations under subsection (12) may include—

 

(a)    

provisions for a national database of permits;

 

(b)    

requirements for travel concession authorities to provide information

 

about permits and permit holders; and


 
 

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(c)    

requirements for travel concession authorities and operators to take such

 

steps as are practicable to prevent the use of permits which are not valid.’.

 

Mr David Clelland

 

Not selected  37

 

Clause  1,  page  3,  line  2,  at end add—

 

‘(12)    

The Secretary of State may issue guidance to travel concession authorities in

 

England to which they must have regard in determining which services can be

 

excluded from the national concession.’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Mr David Clelland

 

Not selected  36

 

Clause  2,  page  3,  line  5,  at end insert—

 

‘(1A)    

In the definition of “eligible service” for paragraph (b) substitute—

 

“(b)    

after that time, a bus service of a class specified by a travel

 

concession authority.”.’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Stephen Hammond

 

Mr Lee Scott

 

Andrew Rosindell

 

Withdrawn  16

 

Clause  3,  page  3,  line  25,  at end insert—

 

‘(2A)    

Two years after the commencement of this Act the Secretary of State shall

 

conduct a review into the reimbursement of operators by travel concession

 

authorities and shall lay before Parliament a report setting out his findings.’.

 

Mr David Clelland

 

Withdrawn  20

 

Clause  3,  page  3,  line  25,  at end insert—

 

‘(2A)    

After subsection (1) (as substituted by subsection (2) above) insert—

 

“(1A)    

The Secretary of State shall provide to each travel concession authority

 

in England by means of a direct annual revenue grant sufficient funding

 

for the authority to comply with its obligation to reimburse operators

 

under subsection (1).”.’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 



 
 

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Concessionary Bus Travel Bill[ [], continued

 
 

Paul Rowen

 

Mr John Leech

 

Withdrawn  21

 

Clause  4,  page  4,  line  4,  at end insert—

 

‘(1A)    

In subsection (1) for “subsection (3) below” substitute “subsections (1A) and (3)

 

below”.

 

(1B)    

After subsection (1) insert—

 

“(1A)    

The London Authorities shall enter into arrangements with Transport for

 

London under subsection (1) above in respect of journeys falling within

 

section 241(2) below.”.’.

 

Paul Rowen

 

Mr John Leech

 

Not called  12

 

Clause  4,  page  4,  line  11,  at end insert—

 

‘(ba)    

after sub-paragraph (ix) insert—

 

“(x)    

whose ability to travel is impaired by a mental disorder

 

within the meaning of section 1 of the Mental Health Act

 

1983 shall be considered to be a disabled person.”’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Paul Rowen

 

Mr John Leech

 

Not called  22

 

Clause  5,  page  4,  line  25,  leave out subsection (2) and insert—

 

‘(2)    

For subsection (1) substitute—

 

“(1)    

If immediately before 1st January in any financial year it appears to

 

Transport for London that the arrangements under section 240(1) for

 

travel concessions for the next financial year—

 

(a)    

do not meet the requirements of section 242 below as to scope,

 

and

 

(b)    

do not meet the requirements of section 243 below as to

 

uniformity,

 

    

Transport for London shall notify the Secretary of State, and the

 

arrangements for the current financial year shall be carried forward with

 

such adjustments as the Secretary of State may in writing specify for the

 

purpose of ensuring that travel concessions are preserved for all eligible

 

England residents and that additional travel concessions are preserved for

 

eligible London residents.”.’.

 

Paul Rowen

 

Mr John Leech

 

Not called  23

 

Clause  5,  page  4,  line  30,  after ‘(2)’, insert—

 

‘(a)    

for “a particular local authority or” substitute “the”;

 

(b)    

’.


 
 

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Concessionary Bus Travel Bill[ [], continued

 
 

Paul Rowen

 

Mr John Leech

 

Not called  24

 

Clause  5,  page  5,  line  2,  at end insert—

 

‘(5A)    

Omit subsection (5).’.

 

Paul Rowen

 

Mr John Leech

 

Not called  25

 

Clause  5,  page  5,  line  4,  leave out subsection (7) and insert—

 

‘(7)    

Omit Schedule 16 to the 1999 Act (the London free travel scheme).’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Paul Rowen

 

Mr John Leech

 

 

Not called  33

 

Schedule  1,  page  13,  line  7,  at end insert—

 

‘(1B)    

The Secretary of State shall make such payments to London authorities as he

 

considers appropriate to ensure that permits in London meet the national standard

 

and can continue to be validated on vehicles operating on the London Bus

 

Network.’.

 

Stephen Hammond

 

Mr Lee Scott

 

Andrew Rosindell

 

Paul Rowen

 

Mr John Leech

 

Negatived on division  19

 

Schedule  1,  page  13,  line  18,  at end add—

 

    ‘(7)  

After paragraph 5(7) insert—

 

  “(8)  

Where a London authority considers the amount notified by

 

Transport for London under paragraph 5(1) to be excessive—

 

(a)    

the authority may within 7 days of being notified by

 

Transport for London apply to the Secretary of State to

 

review the proposed charge; and

 

(b)    

if the Secretary of State agrees that the proposed charge is

 

excessive, then he shall notify both Transport for London

 

and the authority of an alternative lower amount.”.’.

 

Paul Rowen

 

Mr John Leech

 

Not selected  26

 

Page  12,  line  2,  leave out Schedule 1.

 

Schedule Agreed to.

 



 
 

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Concessionary Bus Travel Bill[ [], continued

 
 

Paul Rowen

 

Mr John Leech

 

 

Not called  29

 

Clause  6,  page  5,  line  41,  at end insert—

 

‘(8C)    

If a disabled person is unable to access mainstream public transport as a result of

 

their impairment the London travel concession authority shall mark that clearly

 

on the permit.

 

(8D)    

Where a person whose current statutory travel concession permit is marked in

 

accordance with subsection (8C) they shall be entitled to a waiver of the fare for

 

a journey when using a dial a ride vehicle, community transport service, Hackney

 

carriage vehicle or other door to door transport.

 

(8E)    

The Secretary of State shall issue guidance to travel concession authorities in

 

London to which they shall have regard in determining for the purposes of

 

subsection (8C) whether a disabled person needs to travel by door to door

 

transport.

 

(8F)    

Before issuing guidance under subsection (8E) the Secretary of State shall

 

consult—

 

(a)    

the Disabled Persons Transport Advisory Committee;

 

(b)    

associations representative of travel concession authorities; and

 

(c)    

such other persons as the Secretary of State thinks fit.’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Paul Rowen

 

Mr John Leech

 

Not called  27

 

Clause  7,  page  6,  line  15,  at end insert —

 

‘(3A)    

After subsection (5) insert—

 

“(5A)    

If a disabled person requires the assistance of a companion to travel on

 

journeys on public transport services, the London travel concession

 

authority must mark that clearly on the permit.

 

(5B)    

Where a person whose current statutory travel concession permit is

 

marked in accordance with subsection (5A) is entitled under this section

 

to a waiver of the fare for a journey, one companion travelling on the

 

journey with the person (and nominated by the person as the person’s

 

companion for that journey) is also entitled to a waiver of the fare for the

 

journey.

 

(5C)    

The Secretary of State shall issue guidance to travel concession

 

authorities in London to which they must have regard in determining for

 

the purposes of subsection (5A) whether a disabled person needs a

 

companion in order to travel.

 

(5D)    

Before issuing guidance under subsection (5C) the Secretary of State

 

shall consult—

 

(a)    

the Disabled Persons Transport Advisory Committee;

 

(b)    

associations representative of travel concession authorities; and

 

(c)    

such other persons as the Secretary of State thinks fit.”.’.


 
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