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Public Bill Committee Proceedings: 26th June 2007          

69

 

Legal Services Bill-[Lords], continued

 
 

“33    

Legal professional privilege

 

(1)    

Subsection (2) applies where a licensed conveyancer or recognised

 

body acts as such for a client.

 

(2)    

Any communication, document, material or information is privileged

 

from disclosure in like manner as if the licensed conveyancer or body

 

had at all material times been acting as the client’s solicitor.

 

(3)    

This section”.’.

 

Schedule, as amended, Agreed to.

 

Clauses 184 to 187 Agreed to.

 

Schedule 18 Agreed to.

 

Clause 188 Agreed to.

 

Schedule 19 Agreed to.

 

Clauses 189 and 190 Agreed to.

 


 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  18

 

Clause  191,  page  103,  line  19,  leave out from ‘applies’ to end of line 20 and insert

 

‘where an individual (“P”) who is not a barrister or solicitor—’.

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  19

 

Clause  191,  page  103,  line  21,  leave out ‘providing’ and insert ‘provides’.

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  20

 

Clause  191,  page  103,  line  23,  leave out ‘providing’ and insert ‘provides’.

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  21

 

Clause  191,  page  103,  line  25,  leave out ‘providing’ and insert ‘provides’.

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  22

 

Clause  191,  page  103,  line  27,  leave out ‘providing’ and insert ‘provides’.

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  23

 

Clause  191,  page  103,  line  29,  leave out from ‘Any’ to ‘privileged’ and insert

 

‘communication, document, material or information relating to the provision of the

 

services in question is’.

 


 
 

Public Bill Committee Proceedings: 26th June 2007          

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Legal Services Bill-[Lords], continued

 
 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  24

 

Clause  191,  page  103,  line  33,  leave out from ‘(a)’ to ‘services’ in line 34 and insert

 

‘a licensed body provides’.

 

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  25

 

Clause  191,  page  103,  line  39,  leave out from ‘(4)’ to ‘privileged’ and insert ‘Any

 

communication, document, material or information relating to the provision of the

 

services in question is’.

 

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  26

 

Clause  191,  page  103,  line  44,  leave out paragraph (b).

 

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  27

 

Clause  191,  page  104,  line  31,  after ‘communication’, insert ‘, a document,

 

material or information’.

 

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 

Clauses 192 and 193 Agreed to.

 


 

Simon Hughes

 

John Hemming

 

Negatived on division  243

 

Clause  194,  page  106,  line  41,  leave out subsection (2).

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  323

 

Clause  195,  page  108,  line  11,  leave out ‘under section 3’ and insert ‘in accordance

 

with section 3A’.

 

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 

Clause 196 Agreed to.

 

Schedule 20 Agreed to.


 
 

Public Bill Committee Proceedings: 26th June 2007          

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Legal Services Bill-[Lords], continued

 
 

Clauses 197 to 207 Agreed to.

 


 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to on division  126

 

Clause  208,  page  118,  line  3,  at end insert—

 

‘“independent trade union” has the same meaning as in the Trade Union and

 

Labour Relations (Consolidation) Act 1992 (c. 52) (see section 5 of that

 

Act);’

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  127

 

Clause  208,  page  118,  line  18,  leave out ‘a’ and insert ‘an independent’.

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  128

 

Clause  208,  page  118,  leave out lines 33 to 35.

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 

Clauses 209 to 211 Agreed to.

 


 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to on division  28

 

Clause  212,  page  120,  line  5,  leave out from ‘Chancellor’ to end of line 24.

 

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 

Clauses 213 and 214 Agreed to.

 


 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  29

 

Clause  215,  page  120,  line  37,  leave out subsection (2).

 

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 


 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  103

 

Schedule  21,  page  337,  line  10,  leave out paragraph (a) and insert—

 

‘( )    

in subsection (1), after “to” (in the first place) insert “—


 
 

Public Bill Committee Proceedings: 26th June 2007          

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Legal Services Bill-[Lords], continued

 
 

(a)    

”,

 

( )    

at the end of that subsection insert “, and

 

(b)    

documents, material or information relating to any

 

matter mentioned in paragraph (a).”, and

 

( )    

for subsection (2) substitute—

 

“(2)    

Where a patent attorney acts for a client in relation to a matter

 

mentioned in subsection (1), any communication, document,

 

material or information to which this section applies is

 

privileged from disclosure in like manner as if the patent

 

attorney had at all material times been acting as the client’s

 

solicitor.”,’.

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  104

 

Schedule  21,  page  337,  line  14,  at end insert ‘, and

 

( )    

omit subsection (4).’

 


 

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  105

 

Schedule  21,  page  343,  line  30,  leave out paragraph (a) and insert—

 

‘( )    

in subsection (1), after “to” (in the first place) insert “—

 

(a)    

”,

 

( )    

at the end of that subsection insert “, and

 

(b)    

documents, material or information relating to any

 

matter mentioned in paragraph (a).”, and

 

( )    

for subsection (2) substitute—

 

“(2)    

Where a trade mark attorney acts for a client in relation to a

 

matter mentioned in subsection (1), any communication,

 

document, material or information to which this section

 

applies is privileged from disclosure in like manner as if the

 

trade mark attorney had at all material times been acting as the

 

client’s solicitor.”’.

 


 

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  326

 

Schedule  21,  page  344,  line  14,  at end insert—

 

‘Police Act 1996 (c. 16)

 

            

In section 84 of the Police Act 1996 (representation at disciplinary and other

 

proceedings), in subsection (2) for “either by counsel or by a solicitor”

 

substitute “by a person who, for the purposes of the Legal Services Act 2007,

 

is an authorised person in relation to an activity which constitutes the exercise

 

of a right of audience (within the meaning of that Act)”.’

 

 

Schedule, as amended, Agreed to.


 
 

Public Bill Committee Proceedings: 26th June 2007          

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Legal Services Bill-[Lords], continued

 
 

Schedule 22 Agreed to.

 


 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  106

 

Schedule  23,  page  362,  line  39,  column 2, at end insert—

  

‘In section 48(2)(b) “in the London Gazette”.’.

 
 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  107

 

Schedule  23,  page  367,  line  30,  column 2, leave out from beginning to end of line

 

31 and insert—

  

‘In section 280—

 
  

(a)    

in subsection (3) “or” at the end of paragraph

 
  

(b), and

 
  

(b)    

subsection (4).’.

 
 

            

 

Schedule, as amended, Agreed to.

 


 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  202

 

Schedule  24,  page  371,  line  14,  at end insert—

 

‘independent trade union

section 208’.

 
 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  203

 

Schedule  24,  page  371,  line  14,  at end insert—

 

‘indirect interest (of a non-

section 72’.

 
 

authorised person in a licensable

  
 

body)

  
 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  204

 

Schedule  24,  page  371,  line  15,  column 1, leave out ‘in shares’.


 
 

Public Bill Committee Proceedings: 26th June 2007          

74

 

Legal Services Bill-[Lords], continued

 
 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  205

 

Schedule  24,  page  373,  leave out line 2.

 

Schedule, as amended, Agreed to.

 


 

New Clauses

 

Advice and research functions of the Practitioner Panel

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Tobias Ellwood

 

Not called  NC1

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘(1)    

The Practitioner Panel may, at the request of the Board—

 

(a)    

carry out research for the Board;

 

(b)    

give advice to the Board.

 

(2)    

The Board must consider any advice given and the results of any research carried

 

out under this section.

 

(3)    

The Practitioner Panel may publish such information as it thinks fit about advice

 

it gives, and about the results of research carried out by it, under this section.’.

 


 

Paralegals

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Tobias Ellwood

 

Not called  NC2

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘(1)    

The Board must assist the maintenance and development of standards in relation

 

to—

 

(a)    

the training of paralegals employed by authorised or exempt persons and

 

(b)    

the proper supervision and monitoring of paralegals.

 

(2)    

For the purposes of this section a “paralegal” is a person providing legal advice,

 

support, assistance or representation in accordance with regulations prescribed by

 

the Lord Chancellor.’.

 



 
 

Public Bill Committee Proceedings: 26th June 2007          

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Legal Services Bill-[Lords], continued

 
 

Professional representations

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Tobias Ellwood

 

Second reading negatived on division  NC3

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘Section 10 shall apply mutatis mutandis to representations by approved

 

regulators whether in their regulatory or representive capacity.’.

 


 

Representations by the Practioner Panel

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Tobias Ellwood

 

Not called  NC4

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘(1)    

The Board must consider any representations made to it by the Practioner Panel.

 

(2)    

If the Board disagrees with a view expressed, or proposal made, in the

 

representations, it must give the Practioner Panel a notice to that effect stating its

 

reasons for disagreeing.

 

(3)    

The Practioner Panel may publish such information as it thinks fit about any

 

representations made by it to the Board.

 

(4)    

Where the Consumer Panel publishes information about any representations

 

made by it, the Board must publish any notice it gives under subsection (2) in

 

respect of those representations.’.

 


 

The Practioner Panel

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Tobias Ellwood

 

Not called  NC5

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘(1)    

The Board must establish and maintain a panel of persons (to be known as “the

 

Practioner Panel”) to represent the interests of practitioners and consult them on

 

the extent to which its general policies and practices are consistent with its

 

general duties under section 1.

 

(2)    

The Board must appoint one of the members of the Practioner Panel to be the

 

chairman of the Panel.

 

(3)    

The Lord Chancellor’s approval is required for the appointment or dismissal of

 

the chairman.

 

(4)    

The Board must have regard to any representation made to it by the Practioner

 

Panel.


 
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