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significant adverse impact on the regulatory objectives taken as a whole, and’.

 


 

Nick Herbert

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Nick Hurd

 

Not selected  51

 

Page  24,  line  5  [Clause  45],  leave out from ‘have’ to ‘and’ in line 6 and insert ‘a

 

significant adverse impact on the regulatory objectives taken as a whole, and’.

 


 

Nick Herbert

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Nick Hurd

 

Not selected  52

 

Page  27,  line  19  [Clause  49],  leave out subsections (3) and (4) and insert—

 

‘( )    

Any statement of policy issued by the Board must—

 

(a)    

respect the principle that primary responsibility for regulation rests with

 

the approved regulators;

 

(b)    

ensure that the Board exercises its powers only where it considers that the

 

action or inaction of an approved regulator is not an approach which the

 

approved regulator could reasonably have taken;

 

(c)    

provide that, save where there is an imminent risk of significant damage

 

to the regulatory objectives, the Board will seek to resolve matters

 

informally with the approved regulator before seeking its powers.’.

 

Nick Herbert

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Nick Hurd

 

Not called  66

 

Page  27,  line  20  [Clause  49],  at end insert ‘and that the Board should exercise its

 

powers only where approved regulators are clearly failing’.

 


 

Nick Herbert

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Nick Hurd

 

Not selected  13

 

Page  30,  line  45  [Clause  54],  at end insert—

 

‘(1A)    

An approved regulator must consider any request made by an external regulatory

 

body for the approved regulator to reconsider any provision made by its

 

regulatory arrangements on the grounds that the provision either—


 
 

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(a)    

conflicts with a requirement of a regulatory provision made by the

 

external regulatory body, or

 

(b)    

unnecessarily duplicates any regulatory provision made by that external

 

regulator.’.

 

 


 

Nick Herbert

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Nick Hurd

 

Not selected  14

 

Page  31,  line  6  [Clause  54],  at end insert—

 

‘(2A)    

An external regulatory body may make an application to an approved regulator

 

under this section if it considers that the arrangements of the approved

 

regulator—

 

(a)    

frustrate the exercise of the external regulatory body’s requirements, or

 

(b)    

conflict with the external regulatory body’s regulatory requirements, or

 

(c)    

give rise to unnecessary duplication of regulatory requirements for the

 

subjects of the external regulatory body.

 

(2B)    

For the purposes of subsection (2A)(c) above, “subjects” means any individuals

 

or entities subject to the regulatory powers and jurisdication of the external

 

regulator.

 

(2C)    

Where an application is made to an approved regulator under this section, the

 

approved regulator must—

 

(a)    

determine whether such regulatory conflict exists with the external

 

regulatory body’s requirements and, where it so determines, take such

 

steps as are reasonably practicable to address the regulatory conflict

 

outlined by the external regulatory body, or,

 

(b)    

in the absence of satisfactory resolution and where provisions for the

 

resolution of external regulatory conflict provide, make an application to

 

the Board under subsection (4).’.

 

Nick Herbert

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Nick Hurd

 

Not selected  15

 

Page  31,  line  27  [Clause  55],  at end insert—

 

‘(d)    

shall give a reason and explanation for such notice.’.

 


 

Mr Secretary Straw

 

Agreed to  84

 

Page  36,  line  25  [Clause  64],  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

to make regulations or rules providing for appeals to the High Court or

 

another body against decisions made by the Board in its capacity as an

 

approved regulator (including regulations or rules providing for a


 
 

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decision on such an appeal to be final and for orders as to payment of

 

costs).’.

 


 

Nick Herbert

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Nick Hurd

 

Mr David Heath

 

David Howarth

 

Negatived on division  24

 

Page  120,  line  6  [Schedule  1],  at end insert ‘with the concurrence of the Lord Chief

 

Justice’.

 

Mr David Heath

 

David Howarth

 

Not called  147

 

Page  120,  line  9  [Schedule  1],  after ‘Chancellor’, insert ‘with the approval of the

 

Lord Chief Justice’.

 

Nick Herbert

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Nick Hurd

 

Not called  25

 

Page  120,  line  9  [Schedule  1],  at end insert ‘with the concurrence of the Lord Chief

 

Justice’.

 

Mr Secretary Straw

 

Agreed to  102

 

Page  120,  line  11  [Schedule  1],  at end insert—

 

    ‘( )  

Before appointing an ordinary member, the Lord Chancellor must consult the

 

Lord Chief Justice.’.

 

Nick Herbert

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Nick Hurd

 

Not called  26

 

Page  120,  line  15  [Schedule  1],  after ‘Chancellor’, insert ‘and Lord Chief Justice’.

 

Mr Kevan Jones

 

John Mann

 

Agreed to on division  75

 

Page  120,  line  17  [Schedule  1],  leave out ‘first’.

 

Mr Secretary Straw

 

Not moved  103

 

Page  120,  line  17  [Schedule  1],  after ‘chairman’ insert ‘, and any subsequent

 

chairman appointed in the period of 5 years beginning with the day on which that first

 

appointment takes effect,’.


 
 

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John Mann

 

Not selected  157

 

Parliamentary Star    

Page  120,  line  18  [Schedule  1],  leave out lines 18 to 24.

 

Mr Secretary Straw

 

Agreed to  104

 

Page  120,  line  18  [Schedule  1],  leave out ‘any subsequent’ and insert ‘the’.

 


 

Mr Secretary Straw

 

Agreed to  105

 

Page  121,  line  7  [Schedule  1],  after ‘conveyancer;’ insert—

 

‘( )    

granted a certificate issued by the Institute of Legal Executives

 

authorising the person to practise as a legal executive;

 

( )    

a registered patent attorney, within the meaning given by section

 

275(1) of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 (c. 48);

 

( )    

a registered trade mark attorney, within the meaning of the Trade

 

Marks Act 1994 (c. 26);’.

 

Nick Herbert

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Nick Hurd

 

Not called  27

 

Page  121,  line  17  [Schedule  1],  after ‘Chancellor’, insert ‘and Lord Chief Justice’.

 


 

Nick Herbert

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Nick Hurd

 

Not called  28

 

Page  122,  line  6  [Schedule  1],  after ‘Chancellor’, insert ‘with the concurrence of

 

the Lord Chief Justice’.

 

Nick Herbert

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Nick Hurd

 

Not called  29

 

Page  122,  line  7  [Schedule  1],  after ‘Chancellor’, insert ‘and Lord Chief Justice’.

 

Nick Herbert

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Nick Hurd

 

Not called  30

 

Page  122,  line  9  [Schedule  1],  leave out ‘is’ and insert ‘and Lord Chief Justice are’.


 
 

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Nick Herbert

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Nick Hurd

 

Not called  31

 

Page  122,  line  18  [Schedule  1],  at end insert—

 

‘(4A)    

Before removing the chairman under sub-paragraph (1)(b), the Lord Chancellor

 

must seek the approval of the Lord Chief Justice.’.

 

Nick Herbert

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Nick Hurd

 

Not called  32

 

Page  122,  line  19  [Schedule  1],  leave out ‘removing’ and insert ‘the Lord

 

Chancellor and Lord Chief Justice remove’.

 

Mr Secretary Straw

 

Agreed to  106

 

Page  122,  line  19  [Schedule  1],  leave out from ‘member’ to end of line 20 and

 

insert ‘under sub-paragraph (1)(b), the Lord Chancellor must consult—

 

(a)    

the Lord Chief Justice, and

 

(b)    

if the ordinary member is not the chairman, the chairman.’.

 

Nick Herbert

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Nick Hurd

 

Not called  33

 

Page  122,  line  20  [Schedule  1],  after ‘Chancellor’, insert ‘and the Lord Chief

 

Justice’.

 

Nick Herbert

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Nick Hurd

 

Not called  34

 

Page  122,  line  21  [Schedule  1],  after ‘Chancellor’, insert ‘and Lord Chief Justice’.

 


 

nEW cLAUSES RELATING TO PART 5

 

Patent and trade mark agents

 

Nick Herbert

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Nick Hurd

 

Not selected  NC3

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘A body—


 
 

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(a)    

existing at the date this Act comes into force and entitled to use the

 

description “Registered Trade Mark Agents” or “Registered Patent

 

Agents”; and

 

(b)    

which through the operation of section 72(1)(b) of this Act would

 

otherwise be a licensable body,

 

shall not be a licensable body unless it ceases to be entitled to use the said

 

descriptions.’.

 


 

Licensing authority

 

Nick Herbert

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Nick Hurd

 

Withdrawn  NC6

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘(1)    

A licensing authority may apply to the Board to determine the status of a

 

recognised professional body if it is in any doubt as to whether that professional

 

body meets the criteria set down in this Act.

 

(2)    

A licensing authority may determine that a body “B”, which is prima facie “low

 

risk” under section 108(2)(b) (non-authorised managers are all members of

 

recognised professional bodies), should not be treated as low risk if it considers

 

the services to be offered by B are inconsistent with the “professional principles”

 

set out in section 1(3).

 

(3)    

Any decision under subsection (2) will follow the procedural requirements set out

 

in Schedule 11(2) and (3).’.

 


 

Nick Herbert

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Nick Hurd

 

Not called  65

 

Page  41,  line  30  [Clause  71],  after first ‘activities’, insert ‘(other than notarial

 

activities)’.

 


 

Mr Secretary Straw

 

Agreed to  85

 

Page  49,  line  7  [Clause  83],  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

provision as to how the licensing authority, when considering the

 

regulatory objectives (in compliance with its duties under section 3(2) or

 

28(2)) in connection with an application for a licence, should take

 

account of the objective of improving access to justice;’.


 
 

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Nick Herbert

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Nick Hurd

 

Not selected  53

 

Page  49,  line  13  [Clause  83],  at end insert—

 

‘(da)    

appropriate provision requiring the licensing authority to consider the

 

likely impact of a proposed application on access to justice when

 

determining the application,’.

 

Nick Herbert

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Nick Hurd

 

Not called  156

 

Page  49,  line  13  [Clause  83],  at end insert—

 

‘(da)    

appropriate provisions reinforcing the independence and integrity of the

 

legal professionals concerned,’.

 


 

Mr Secretary Straw

 

Agreed to  86

 

Page  53,  line  5  [Clause  93],  after ‘who’ insert ‘has an interest or an indirect interest

 

or’.

 


 

Nick Herbert

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Nick Hurd

 

Not selected  16

 

Page  57,  line  14  [Clause  104],  after ‘body’, insert ‘which is not licensed by the

 

Law Society’.

 

Nick Herbert

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Nick Hurd

 

Not selected  17

 

Page  57,  line  17  [Clause  104],  after ‘body’, insert ‘which is not licensed by the

 

Council for Licensed Conveyancers’.

 

Nick Herbert

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Mr Nick Hurd

 

Not called  39

 

Page  57,  line  24  [Clause  105],  leave out ‘an independent’ and insert ‘a’.


 
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