Select Committee on Constitutional Affairs Written Evidence


Evidence submitted by Van Baaren & Wright Solicitors (LAR 215)

  1.  We are a two partner niche practice in Kew, Richmond specialising in family work as well as being mediators and collaborative lawyers. We wish to comment on Family legal aid and how the Carter and LSC proposals will affect our ability to continue as a Legal Aid supplier. We have two full time Children Panel members (Children's Representatives) exclusively undertaking public law children's cases and two further fee-earners who also undertake care work. A large part of our total income comes from Legal Aid and the greatest percentage of that legal aid income is from public law children's cases. We hold the Lexcel qualification and are committed to the highest possible standards of service to all our clients whether privately or publicly funded...

  2.  We should make it clear from the outset that if the proposed Family fixed fees are implemented then we cannot see how we can maintain the quality of service we think our clients are entitled to. We have already had to make some very difficult decisions about how much legally aided work we can afford to take on as a practice. As we are sure you will appreciate we have obligations to our staff and to our families and we cannot operate as a charity. When this firm started up nine years ago it was committed to helping those less fortunate even though it was at much lower rates of remuneration. Over time we have had to progressively cut back on the both the categories and the quantity of legal aid work. Since we started out the difference between our private rates and Legal Aid rates has increased so that now it about three times the Legal Aid rate. This means that we have to work three times as hard to get the same remuneration. In reality, there are not enough hours in the day for this to happen and so our relative position in relation to privately funded practices has slipped further and further back. We fully appreciate that no Government got elected by promising to give more money to lawyers and that apparently this country spends more on Legal Aid than any other developed country. However, this Government needs to be aware of the consequences of implementing the LSC proposals.

  3.  If firms like ours cease doing Legal Aid work then the ones who will suffer will be families and especially children who desperately need representation at possibly the most difficult time of their lives. For a child it is difficult to think of a more important decision than whether they should be permanently removed from the care of their parents. For a parent the removal of a child (sometimes at birth when a mother will just have gone through the trauma of giving birth) is incredibly stressful and expert and sensitive representation is essential if they are to be able to play any part in very complex proceedings. Carter and the LSC are suggesting that such work should be delegated to the lowest possible level. That simply is not compatible with the need of a child or parent to form a relationship with one lawyer and to trust that person. In particular, it is recognised that a child should have as few new faces to deal with as possible in care proceedings. Different experts are discouraged for that very reason. However the LSC are effectively suggesting that continuity is not important for a child and anyone can do the work.

  4.  We note that the LSC proposals came out at virtually the same time as the final Carter Report. This must call into question the independence of the Carter report. It is very noticeable that the interim report from Carter hardly touches on Family work and is very concentrated on crime. It is only in the final report that he makes proposals for Family. The LSC report came out at the same time. That report could not have been produced in the light of Carter's proposals unless Carter and the LSC were working closely together. We have been told by the LSC that one of the reasons for proposing fixed fees in Family work is that Carter was not able to find enough savings in Crime to assist Family legal aid.

  5.  It appears to those of us on the front line of providing services that the LSC had these proposals for fixed fees in mind all along and just needed a vehicle for justification. Carter has provided that vehicle and we believe that the Select committee should look very closely at Carter's recommendations in the light of that.

  6.  It is clear that Carter did not spend the sort of time on Family that he did on Crime. We therefore would question his methodology in simply suggesting that a similar model to Crime must bring about the same benefits. We would argue that cases involving children are very different from other types of cases. The case has to be driven by the needs of the child and not by some overweening attempt to cut costs.

  7.  Carter wants the LSC to encourage specialism in representation of children but the LSC proposals will decimate those undertaking this work:

    (a)  The number of Family franchise has decreased from about 4,600 to about 2,800 in the last few years.

    (b)  The number of Children Panel members has declined from over 2,000 across the country to about 1,500 now. A drop of 25%. There is no analysis as to reasons why. Anecdotally we would submit that the paucity of remuneration is a significant reason.

    (c)  The average age of Children Panel lawyers is getting higher. There are only about 15 such lawyers under 30 across the country. Therefore it can be seen that whatever Carter or the LSC may say there is little incentive for lawyers to become Panel members.

    (d)  The LSC proposals will take away any remaining incentive to become Panel members by:

      —  Removing the automatic 15% uplift for Panel members.

      —  Fixing the fees for advocacy so that solicitors are encouraged to use counsel at every tum, as counsel's fees do not form part of the fixed fee (apart from in some parts of private law proceedings).

      —  Fixing fees so that there is an effective pay cut and it would mean that we could no longer be profitable.

    (e)  The LSC are bringing in Preferred Supplier. This is going to be limited to firms that can reach and maintain the highest quality standards. The LSC recognise that this will reduce the number of firms undertaking Family Legal Aid but welcome this as there are still a reasonable percentage of firms who undertake a relatively small amount of legal aid. The LSC want firms to become larger so that there are fewer suppliers to with whom to contract. This is part of the drive to move towards competitive tendering. If these fixed fee proposals reduce the supply of solicitors firms undertaking legal aid before Preferred Supplier comes in the LSC risk having little control over quality as there may not be enough firms left of sufficient quality to undertake the work.

    (f)  The LSC are also introducing their Peer review scheme. They are claiming that will give them a better means of assessing the quality of the work being undertaken. It seems logical to assume that the LSC believe that the Preferred Supplier and Peer review Schemes will increase the overall quality and so reduce the number of firms undertaking Legal Aid work to those who are good at it. If so, then the time to consider a change in the funding arrangements is when the fees of high quality firms only can be analysed. At present the LSC are basing their average case cost on a wide range of suppliers which would presumably include those who the LSC believe to be not so good. We would submit that until this is done any evidence produced by the LSC is flawed. A natural consequence of Peer Review is that some firms will be "weeded out" in any event, thus reducing the number of suppliers. Surely it would be more beneficial to wait until the new supplier base is known before introducing changes to the funding arrangements.

    (g)  The LSC proposals on fixed fees in care cases are based on a division up of a case, based on the Protocol. However, many cases do not follow the Protocol slavishly and so it will not be possible to be certain when one part of the fixed fee ends and when the next one starts. For example, the LSC propose that solicitors will be paid a total of £502.00 for all work after the Pre-Hearing Review (PHR). In many cases there is no need for a PHR and so it will not be possible under these proposals to claim that fee which is meant to cover the final hearing. In other cases there may be several PHRs and so we will not know which one is the relevant one for claiming this fixed fee. The Protocol is meant to be a guide to best practice, not something to be followed in every case whether the case needs it or not.

    (h)  Any fixed fee arrangement needs to allow for a proper balance between swings and roundabouts. The current proposal will mean that solicitors will have the possibility of losing up to £15,000.00 per case. The most they could gain on a case is a few thousand pounds. Therefore it would be necessary to have a lot of small gains to make up for just one big loss. As it is not possible to run a very high case-load (we manage about 20-30 cases each at any one time and we believe that is quite a high figure) and so we cannot easily cope with many big losses. If we acted for, say, four children in a case then those losses could be multiplied by a factor of four leading to potential losses of £60,000 in such a case. We doubt if any small business could take on work where there is a risk of such losses.

    (i)  The LSC should recognise that legally aided firms are at best marginally profitable and any further attack on profit margins will inevitably lead to a mass exodus.

OUR PROPOSALS

  1.  Wait for the introduction of Peer Review and Preferred Supplier and see what effect that has on the number of firms undertaking Legal Aid. Of itself that might have the effect of reducing the overall spend on Family Legal Aid.

  2.  Once the new systems are in place it will then be possible to see what the true average cost per case of care cases is.

  3.  The LSC should amend their systems so that they can analyse the average cost per case. At present all they can do is to present the average cost per certificate. That is not the same thing. In a care case it is quite common for the same solicitor to act for all the children in the case. If there are five children then that solicitor's costs will be divided by five as the costs are spread between the five certificates. In this way that solicitor may be seen to be five times as efficient as the solicitor who acted for the mother who only has one certificate. When we report to the LSC we only submit one Claim for all our costs on the costs whether for five children or one parent. We simply put all the relevant certificate numbers on the claim. Therefore it should only take a small change in the LSC procedures to cross-refer the relevant certificates and so get an accurate cost per case.

  4.  The LSC should recognise that every case involving a child is unique and can change rapidly. A case which seemed very straightforward can become very complicated (eg by the birth of another child) and vice versa. Fixed fees encourage the least possible work to be undertaken on a case unless the case might come within the category of being outside fixed fees when perversely there is then an incentive to find as much to be done as possible to get the case into that bracket. The current proposals will leave each solicitor in care case dependent on the amount of his or her fees on the number of clients represented. Solicitors have no means in the current system to act for more children as those cases are allocated by the Court in turn.

  5.  The LSC should undertake a proper analysis of the costs drivers in cases. Solicitors costs in care cases actually went down in 2004-05 and so we dispute that costs are out of control. Lack of court time, lack of social workers and lack of Local Authority lawyers leading to a lack of continuity all add to delays and difficulties. The LSC risk losing the one consistent figure in a care case which is the lawyer for the child. This person usually attends all hearings and is usually the person who drives the case forward. Without this cases are more likely to drift. A lack of specialist lawyers is likely to lead to more people representing themselves at court which always takes up more time and so put pressure on the Judicial budget.

October 2006





 
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