Select Committee on Constitutional Affairs Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 140-143)

RT HON LORD MORRIS OF ABERAVON KG QC AND RT HON LORD MAYHEW OF TWYSDEN QC

28 FEBRUARY 2007

  Q140  Keith Vaz: So she is wrong?

  Lord Morris of Aberavon: Definitely wrong, and this particular Damascene conversion baffles me, that that is the basis of it; that it is an entirely a matter between the Government and the Attorney and if it were opened up, and it has not been opened up except in very rare and exceptional cases over 500 years, so there must be some value in maintaining not only the concept of not revealing the advice but also whether the Attorney has been consulted at all.

  Q141  Keith Vaz: Lord Mayhew, do you agree with that? Do you think there is a contradiction? Should the advice be published? Is Harriet Harman wrong?

  Lord Mayhew of Twysden: I think the reasons that have been given to support the convention are sound. There does have to be absolute candour in an advice if it is to have maximum value, and for it to have maximum value it must be based upon instructions from the client which, again, are fully candid. I think that it is entirely proper that the character of the advice given by the Attorney General should be made public; I think that the doctrine is evolving and I think the situation is evolving sufficiently to justify in what is called a proper case the client, the Government, saying: Well, in this case I am content that the full opinion can be made public, but it is a matter of legal professional privilege; it is exactly the same in character, as Lord Morris has indicated just now, and I think there are good, sound, practical reasons in terms of the value of the opinion that is going to be given for maintaining the general rule, so I think she is wrong.

  Lord Morris of Aberavon: And it is for the client, which is the Government, to decide whether to lift the prohibition. There may be cases, if our convention on going to war comes to pass and is accepted by the Government of the day—and it may well be at a later stage, then as part of the Prime Minister's explanation to the House of Commons as to going to war he may want to play all his cards, but he would be the client, and he—

  Q142  Chairman: The worry is that he might not want to do so.

  Lord Morris of Aberavon: Well, but I would not object to it in principle. That is the general rule that has prevailed, that it is a client/advocate relationship which needs candour on both sides, and perhaps the parading of facts, which might not always be advantageous to either.

  Q143  Chairman: Lord Mayhew and Lord Morris, thank you very much indeed for giving us a really interesting session this afternoon. We now have the opportunity to ask the Lord Chancellor the questions on which you were most interested in hearing the answer. Thank you very much indeed.

  Lord Mayhew of Twysden: I hope the answer will be sustainable!



 
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