Select Committee on Crossrail Bill Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 220 - 239)

  220. "We ask that Cross London Rail Links firstly confirm that CLRL has applied the post-model adjustment methodology as described in paragraph 2.37; secondly, if such adjustments have been made in relation to Liverpool Street Station, provide an itemised list of model adjustments for Liverpool Street Station and what passenger flow adjustments have been made and when exactly to reflect those model adjustments; and, thirdly, confirm that paragraph 2.37 is, in itself, complete or, if not, provide what appears to be the missing final text."

  221. He is referring to the fact that, as you see, the last sentence I have quoted from the italicised section seems to say, "Changes to the 2016 Baseline resulting from the introduction of Crossrail" and then it just stops. Mr Spencer is asking whether that is a misprint or what it is. His letter goes on:

  222. "We look forward to hearing from you on this matter. If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me." Crossrail normally answer jolly quickly, in my experience. There has been no response from them to this particular letter. Not only that. The ES itself is very misleading, we again respectfully say, at paragraph 8.9.90 of volume two. It is there correctly stated that (i) "A substantial reduction in passengers entering and exiting at Liverpool Street is forecast which will relieve peak hour congestion."

  223. CLRL do indeed forecast that in 2016 without Crossrail 77,700 passengers will exit Liverpool Street Station in total. With Crossrail, the figure reduces to 73,300. The passage from the Environmental Statement just quoted however is immediately followed by a reference to the new station proposed at the western end of the Crossrail tunnels at Moorgate. The clear implication is that no such facility is required at the eastern Liverpool Street end. That is indeed made explicit at paragraph 8.9.130: "(i) Forecasts of passenger demand do not justify a separate Crossrail ticket hall and the London Underground ticket halls are sufficient to accommodate passenger numbers."

  224. One of those ticket halls—here I am getting to why we respectfully say at paragraph 22 that the Environmental Statement is misleading—the most important by far for present purposes, since that is where the Crossrail tunnels and escalators directly lead at point M on your sketch plan, is ticket hall B. CLRL anticipates significant growth in passenger numbers between 2001 and 2016 but much less than the employment growth which the Petitioners anticipate in the local area. Hence matters could be a lot worse than as assessed by Crossrail prior to the opening. Ticket hall B is a most important location for us because it is the point of arrival and is already a very multifunctional space. There, as I have already stated, the prediction is for a 2,500 increase in the gateline numbers exiting the ticket hall and no change in the total numbers entering and leaving those gates: 33,100 without Crossrail; 33,300 with Crossrail.

  225. CLRL's predicted passenger numbers mean that UTH B will be at capacity in 2016 with Crossrail. Ticket hall B will not, as stated in the Environmental Statement, be "sufficient to accommodate passenger numbers", we say, since ticket hall B will require four extra gates to reflect the requirement to plan for a 60 year design life, even assuming that CLRL have the Moorgate/Liverpool Street split right and even assuming that CLRL has its overall passenger number prediction right.

  226. Mr Cameron helpfully tells me that at table six, column B, row five, you will find the figure of 77,700 I mentioned earlier. At table 11, column B, line six, the number 73,300 appears that I mentioned at the beginning of paragraph 23. It may have occurred to Members of the Committee that if there are 16 gates at the moment could you squash some more in, so we turn to that issue. In a very recent test carried out for the Promoter, it is suggested that the number of gates could be increased to 20.

  227. Without quarrelling with the suggestion that with new gateline technology that might be possible, we would say that the question is whether those additional four gates would deliver any real increase in capacity. Messrs Weiss and Spencer will be talking to you about what happens when you have a staggered deadline such as is shown on this appendix A document and you try and put in further gates where there are columns holding up the ceiling and the deadline is not unconstrained in both directions et cetera.

  228. This very recent suggestion that you could increase the number of gates to 20 looks to us very much like an afterthought. Certainly the Environmental Statement says nothing about it. That was published without prior consultation with the Corporation in February 2005 in the particular respect we are here complaining about, simply dumping the longstanding previous proposal for a proper eastern ticket hall. Just to get the context of this, I wonder if I could refer to two short paragraphs from a Corporation of London Planning and Transportation Committee Report of 26 October 2004. That is some five months before the Environmental Statement and deposit of the Bill. Paragraphs 14 and 15 of that Report under the heading, "Liverpool Street Station" say this.

  229. "Proposals for the east end of Liverpool Street Station have also been modified since consultation round one. At the Liverpool Street end of the Crossrail Station, new escalators from the Crossrail platform would link directly into the existing London Underground ticket hall giving access to the mainline concourse", so far a fair and accurate description of what I have already shown you is proposed. Paragraph 15 however goes on:

  230. "At the eastern end a new ticket hall would be built over the London Underground Circle Line platforms replacing the Liverpool Street arcade at street level. This new ticket hall would replace the London Underground ticket hall currently on the corner of Old Broad Street and Liverpool Street. Limited access would be provided to the Metropolitan westbound platform. A commercial development could be built over the new ticket hall."

  231. The first intimation that the proposal was to be ditched came in the form of a poster at Liverpool Street Station which remained in situ, as far as we can gather, for a single day. It appeared a week before the Environmental Statement was published. It appears that the change of mind came so late in the day that there was insufficient time to make all the necessary changes to the Environmental Statement. I will not ask you to turn it up now but if you have leisure time to consult C7(i) in volume 4A of the Environmental Statement you will find that, as we interpret it, it still includes reference to that kind of eastern ticket hall as described in paragraph 15 of the October 2004 report of the Corporation.

  232. The Corporation and British Land are very unhappy about the way in which this was done. We know that for many weeks the Promoter has been looking closely at our cases on Liverpool Street but in his responses has simply and shortly brushed them aside. The Promoter says that we have overestimated the passenger demand arising from Crossrail. The Promoter accordingly rejects our contention that there should be an enhanced eastern ticket hall at Liverpool Street Station. The Corporation's case and that of British Land is not however dependent on demonstrating higher passenger demand at Liverpool Street Station than is predicted by CLRL, as I have already shown. Moreover, the Corporation strongly contests the accuracy of the split for Crossrail passengers in 2016 predicted by CLRL as between Liverpool Street and Moorgate: the figures of 3,600 plus 1,700—5,300—for passengers exiting to the street via ticket hall B and A respectively at Liverpool Street Station and 9,200 at Moorgate, the two figures which I drew your attention to earlier on and which you find in your tables.

  233. As I foreshadowed earlier, there is more to this case than the technical matter of forecasting actual passenger numbers. What I would now like to do with your leave, before coming back to some other matters that I need to deal with at the end, is to ask Mr Cameron to address you in relation to those other, broader matters.

  234. Mr Cameron: I am going to address you on what Mr Laurence described as the broader matters, less technical but nonetheless important. They also provide some explanation as to why the Corporation and British Land say that Crossrail have the split between Moorgate and Liverpool Street wrong.

  235. The Crossrail project has three key objectives: to support the development of London as a world city and its role as the financial centre of Europe and the UK; to support the economic growth of London and its regeneration areas by tackling congestion and lack of capacity on the existing rail network and to improve rail access into and within London.

  236. An important aspect of London's world city status is its leading role in financial and business services. London enjoys a role at the moment as the world's leading international financial and business centre.

  237. As recognised by, amongst others, the Mayor of London, that role and status as a world city cannot be taken for granted. Globalisation makes international business increasingly footloose. International companies will choose other world cities if London does not complete effectively. London's continued dominance is not merely of interest to Londoners; it is of vital importance to the whole of the UK. Furthermore, London's international financial services sector offers a significant opportunity to the UK as it has the potential to grow at a faster rate than both the average world output and the UK average output.

  238. In due course you will probably be taken to the socio and economic reports produced on behalf of the Promoter but those reports indicate that the dominant sector behind future employment growth will be the financial and business services sector. Crossrail's role, as you heard yesterday from Mr Elvin, is said to be to support and enable that growth.

  239. That support that Crossrail can bring to the sector is seen to be vital for the UK economy as a whole. It is acknowledged that if the growth does not come to London and to the existing clusters of financial and business services it is unlikely to go elsewhere in the UK. The Crossrail project will fail to achieve its objectives if it does not provide the enhanced public transport access required to facilitate growth in that sector. At Liverpool Street the approach taken by Cross London Rail Link is not to enhance public transport access but merely to provide access to an existing heavily used ticket hall.


 
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