Examination of Witnesses (Questions 780
- 799)
780. Mrs James: Is that where we saw
the queuing taking place? Is it not the same?
(Mr Weiss) No.
781. Ms Lieven: If I can help, the arcade
ticket hall is the one next to the Circle line where we were told
the MIP lift was coming up and we stood for some time.
782. Sir Peter Soulsby: Can I also check
just looking at this particular plan we have here, am I right
this one shows the existing station control centre still in place?
Is that right or am I misreading it?
783. Ms Lieven: It does, sir, yes, I
think there was a mistake on the model.
784. Sir Peter Soulsby: Which would perhaps
significantly alter the pedroute assessment in that particular
part of the station complex, would it not?
785. Ms Lieven: Yes.
786. Sir Peter Soulsby: It was made clear
to us earlier that it was part of the Promoter's clear proposal
that that would be taken out.
787. Ms Lieven: What that shows, sir,
is this is very much a worst case at that point. The model was
then updated and on the one I am going to show you it has been
taken out. It is that oval section.
788. Sir Peter Soulsby: It is the white
immediately behind the blue.
789. Ms Lieven: Can I then move on to
the next set of pedroute figures. Sir, I should make entirely
clear the City have not yet seen this. We have all been swapping
information very late and these were only produced literally this
morning, so I am not asking Mr Weiss to confirm their accuracy
but—
790. Sir Peter Soulsby: We take the point
that Mr Laurence made earlier on if something is produced they
will need an opportunity to respond to it.
791. Ms Lieven: Sir, I do not want to
get into a tit-for-tat argument but we got a new set of their
figures last night. Mr Weiss, I will take this fairly slowly so
you can see what is going on. Can I have put up first the description
table so we can see the figures. Now what we have down here, Mr
Weiss, is four tests and we have sought to take a higher figure
which is partially based on your suggested flows.
(Mr Weiss) Okay.
792. Ms Lieven: I think you are one step
ahead of me, sir, in that I hope you have been handed out some
paper exhibits. This ought to be page 12, I am told, hot off the
press.
793. Sir Peter Soulsby: Yes, we have
it.
794. Ms Lieven: Just so we understand
where we are at, Mr Weiss, you can see on Test 1 we have taken
without Crossrail 2016 two-way flow at 40,950.[18]
Do you see that?
(Mr Weiss) I do. What is meant
by "plus new gate equipment"? I thought—
795. I am going to come to that in a second,
can we take it line-by-line please. The 40,950 should be referred
back to the first set of tests where the comparable figure was
33,300 which comes from table 14 in the passenger movements.
(Mr Weiss) I support the figure. It is table
14, B2 and B3, for the record.
796. Exits and entries through ticket hall B,
33,300.
(Mr Weiss) Agreed.
797. So what we have done is we have uplifted,
and I have relied on somebody else's maths, by 24%.
(Mr Weiss) If you say so.
798. Sir Peter Soulsby: I think we understand
the process.
799. Ms Lieven: Then we have done Test
1, this is without Crossrail plus 35% and we have put in what
we describe as "new gate equipment", that is 20 slimline
gates, so there is a change.[19]
Test 3 is comparable analysis but with Crossrail, so we have taken
the 24% uplift and we have put in Crossrail.[20]
And Test 4 is the same plus 35%.[21]
18 Crossrail Ref: P2, Liverpool Street Station without
Crossrail (Base) 0845-0900 (LONDLB-2604-014). Back
19
Crossrail Ref: P2, without Crossrail (Base +35%) + new gateline
equipment 0845-0900 (LONDLB-2604-016). Back
20
Crossrail Ref: P2, with Crossrail (Base) 0845-0900 (LONDLB-2604-018). Back
21
Crossrail Ref: P2, with Crossrail (Base +35%) + new gateline
equipment 0845-0900 (LONDLB-2604-020). Back
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