Select Committee on Crossrail Bill Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 5300 - 5319)

  5300. On the other side of the coin, the Promoter provided no witness. He only witness you have on whether it would be possible to have a smaller screen is Mr Johnson. He says that it would not be. He is an expert in that matter. What that means is that the isolation cocoon is an unacceptable solution because it is impractical for BBFC carrying out their statutory functions. If it is impractical, it is not an appropriate solution.

  5301. As far as the escalator isolation is concerned, that will not help for construction noise for the six month period of construction of the escalator shaft so it is fraught with problems. No engineering report has been put before you nor any definite solution. Mr Taylor was not prepared to say to you, "If it does not work, we will not operate the escalator." They are inadequate solutions.

  5302. My fourth area is my conclusion. It is the Promoter who seeks powers to introduce a significant noise generating activity. This is not a case where the Promoter says that there will not be an effect. The Promoter accepts that if you, Parliament, grant him the powers there will be an adverse effect on BBFC. The Promoter should be prepared to take appropriate action to avoid the consequence of the exercise of those powers. The least he should be required to do is to agree to acquire the BBFC premises and to pay compensation in accordance with the statutory code.

  5303. There is a reasonable position for BBFC who say, "Yes. Compulsorily acquire our premises or give us the option to require you to do so. If we have already moved, you will not have to."

  5304. Those are my submissions. I do not know whether I can assist on any questions?

  5305. Mr Binley: No. We are most grateful.

  5306. Mr Elvin: Would the Committee like a brief note on costs?

  5307. Mr Binley: I think that would be helpful.

  5308. Mr Elvin: We will try and provide it before the Committee rises for the Easter recess.


The Petition of Grand Central Sound Studios.

Sharpe Pritchard appeared as Agent.

Mr Clive Newberry, QC, appeared on behalf of the Petitioner.

  5309. Mr Binley: We can now move on to Grant Central Sound Studios.

  5310. Mr Taylor: I have had some discussions with Mr Newberry outside because we were concerned about the timing in relation to this Petition. If we were to start it today, we would not complete it today and there are difficulties in terms of the availability of counsel and witnesses next week. We were wondering whether the Committee might stand this Petition out so that it can be fixed for a date to be agreed in the future.

  5311. Mr Binley: We would be very keen to utilise the time we have and I am sure that your clients might be keen to do that too. Do you think that at least we could proceed with opening statements at this stage?

  5312. Mr Taylor: We could. The other alternative would be to proceed to the third petition which is Antiques Hypermarket.

  5313. Mr Binley: We have agreed with the third Petitioner that we would put his matter back. He needs to seek additional advice having seen the professionalism of your colleagues. Consequently, we are not in a position to proceed in that respect or that is what we would have done. We would be grateful if we could have the opening statements.

  5314. Mr Taylor: Grant Central Sound Studios Limited is the leaseholder of part of 51 to 53 Great Marlborough Street. The property is located above the proposed westbound route about 250 metres west of the proposed Tottenham Court Road Station. You can see that on the plan in front of you.[57] The building is coloured in a beige hue. It is currently occupied and used as the name suggests as a sound recording studio. That was all I was going to say in opening. The issues are particularly related to groundborne noise and you will be pleased to hear concern the application of the NC rating standard.


  5315. Mr Newberry: This does concern a sound recording studio and, as you see from the plan, the line of the tunnel goes directly under the sound recording studios. It is not just a sound recording studio; it is a world class sound recording studio and indeed this part of the area is a centre of excellence on an international scale. I am going to ask you, when you are looking at the evidence, to bear that in mind.

  5316. The company with which you are concerned has a range of activities taking place within its studio but one of the areas concerns advertisements shown at the cinema and I am looking forward to Mr Elvin's dissertation on the adverts he watches as well as the films that he watches.

  5317. That particular area of expertise does involve something that you will hear about in due course called a Dolby licence. One of your colleagues who did a runner earlier on mentioned that, you may recall. One of the interesting aspects of the Dolby licence is that, quite independently of the NC aspect that you have heard about, Dolby specify levels that accord with the NC as part of their licence. If you do not comply with their requirements you do not get the licence and if you do not get the licence you do not get the work. That licence is of international significance. Although we hope not to go into too much of the standards as such, that is the important ramification of the NC standard so far as this case is concerned. We will be calling in due course Mr Bell who builds these studios both in London and internationally. He has built almost half the studios of this standard in Soho, and both nationally and internationally the standard that he has to build his studios to is the NC standard. When we come to it, that is the context in which I shall be asking you to look at that particular standard.

  5318. So far as what we require is concerned, it is set out in our Petition but perhaps I can just outline what we are concerned about. Obviously we need to be assured during the construction of the tunnel that the level of sound that we operate in now continues because what we will be telling you in due course is that, if you get the imposition of what I will call foreign sound within the studio, it is not something that can be rubbed out. It infects the work that they are carrying out and it is ruined. The notion that one can have interspersed activity of Crossrail while they are building this and it does not matter if they have a day or so of causing this groundborne noise does not apply because the piece of work concerned is ruined. You will be told about that. Obviously, after Crossrail is constructed, the same applies. We cannot be put in a situation whereby groundborne noise levels entering the studio are adversely affected.

  5319. I gather that your Committee has been to the Petitioners' premises. I do not know whether you have had the opportunity of visiting what I call a world class sound recording studio. If you have not, I extend an invitation and you may find it instructive.


57   Crossrail Ref: P67, Grand Central Studios Ltd, 51-53 Great Marlborough Street (Parcel No. 493) (WESTCC-9303-001). Back


 
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