Select Committee on Crossrail Bill Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 5640 - 5659)

  5640. I started work with the Greater London Council in June 1970, where I used a typing pool for advice. Leases were prepared there on a basic word processor. By the time of my early retirement from the Civil Service in March 2005, computers were on every desk for advice to be prepared. Email facilities and a virtual/electronic legal library was available and electronic filing (that is a paperless society) had been introduced. Working from home has never been easier.

  5641. My mother's neighbour works part-time in London but the rest of the week from home. This trend is borne out by the use of the Hunter Avenue car park, as illustrated at page 13 of the Promoter's response document where there is 100 per cent bookings of parking spaces, but some places still appear to be available on any particular day.

  5642. As regards location, last Thursday it was reported that Gordon Brown proposes the relocation of more civil servants to cheaper office accommodation out of London and the Southeast. This appears to be a further trend affecting rail passengers commuting into London. For example, I would ask Committee members to consider where are your tax offices? What about the location of the Patents Office and Companies House? If you own property, where is it insured?

  5643. Even in the past few years, such things have changed, so by 2016 we may see a completely different travelling picture and assumptions made now as regards commuter growth into and across London may not be fulfilled, quite apart from the existing Metro service being under-used by the time it reaches Shenfield.

  5644. Value for money: at nearly one billion pounds-plus your Petitioners still query whether the link from Stratford to Shenfield really provides value for money when replacing a good rail service directly into the City at Liverpool Street. Perhaps the promoter can remind the Committee of the present number of passengers using the Metro service from Shenfield and intermediate stations and the anticipated increase in numbers with Crossrail. Does this represent an adequate benefit? Can such benefits/increase in capacity for these numbers not be provided by longer Metro trains, for example? Will Crossrail passengers really want to be diverted via Whitechapel or will they transfer and cause congestion on fast trains.

  5645. One billion pounds appears to represent one-sixteenth of the whole cost of the project and is disproportionate for the benefits envisaged.

  5646. The Olympics: despite the promoter's response in respect of the Olympics, the award of the Games will inevitably restrict the availability of land at Stratford, which would otherwise have been available for an alternative terminus and, more importantly, will restrict the availability of finance for the Crossrail project. This means that the timing for the Crossrail project, as regards its extension to Shenfield, in particular, is completely wrong, even if completion could have been achieved by 2012.

  5647. Perhaps for these reasons the Promoter should concentrate on new parts of the project which will provide more benefit in the short time available.

  5648. Consultation: the Promoter's response, as regards consultation on pages 25 and 26 of its response document, appears to be impressive, but it does not appear to respond directly to the Petitioner's point as regards consultation with residents from Shenfield or those directly affected.

  5649. In addition, it is not clear to your Petitioners as to what stage they could have objected to Shenfield as a terminus.

  5650. Some comments on the Shenfield versus Stratford issues: I will turn now to address some Shenfield versus Stratford issues which we feel strongly about. In July 2005, there was a debate on the Crossrail Bill, as a result of which at least 50 Petitioners in Brentwood expressed views against a terminus at Shenfield. Your Petitioners are aware of more residents holding a similar view who did not formally Petition. On that basis, there is significant objections to a terminus at Shenfield and the Secretary of State for Transport must have been aware of this level of concern by the time of the debate on 12 January 2006.

  5651. In the face of that opposition, it appears to be perverse for him to stifle consideration by the Select Committee of this issue and other alternatives, including the potential upgrade of existing Metro service, if required in practice.

  5652. Your Petitioners consider that this may have been a breach of their human rights, for example, in respect of a fair hearing of the relevant issues and respect for family life which will be adversely affected by the Crossrail project, although your Petitioners have not sought specific advice at this stage.

  5653. There also appears to have been an abuse of parliamentary procedures insofar as the Secretary of State for Transport was well aware of inferences arising from the debate in July 2005, but allowed Petitioners to lodge Petitions and incur expenditure, quite apart from time, as a result.

  5654. Consequently, your Petitioners would ask the Select Committee to seek the necessary power to amend the Crossrail Bill so that the Select Committee can consider and make recommendations as regards alternative arrangements for an appropriate terminus, for example, at Stratford.

  5655. Your Petitioners have read Information Paper A7 and the Promoter's responses on the selection of Shenfield as a terminus, but these appear to be one-sided only and appear to ignore adverse factors, for example, other options have not been considered. It is still not clear why existing services cannot be upgraded with more carriages, if necessary. There will be a loss of unified services from Shenfield without common tickets, track changes between railway lines (in the event of signalling or train breakdown). Where does freight service go? If Crossrail operates continuously on the slow lines, will night use by freight services increase?

  5656. If the Crossrail project goes ahead, it should be considered whether the proposed development at Shenfield, in terms of new sidings and platform, is justified to accommodate extra services, ie such an increase in services be provided further up the line with commencement, say, at Ilford.

  5657. Your Petitioners would make detailed points in respect of the proposal for Hunter Avenue in Shenfield. Your Petitioners query whether the Promoter has seriously considered the risks and requirements at Shenfield.

  5658. In paragraph 4 on page 9 of the Promoter's response, mention is made of school children—from the school in Alexander Lane—but no reference is made to the exit in Oliver Road and the trail of children along Hunter Avenue.

  5659. If Crossrail goes ahead with a terminus at Shenfield, your Petitioners consider that the alternative siting of new sidings would be preferable either between the main lines and the South End Loop line or White Gates Industrial Site or the field to the east of Alexander Lane.


 
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