Select Committee on Crossrail Bill Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 6200 - 6219)

  6200. The benefits flow essentially for London. It is clear in my submission from volume 1 of the Environmental Statement that the benefits in fact can be specifically related to Stratford and the Central London tube and rail stations where there is increased capacity. There is nothing about Shenfield at all. Also, in table 7.3 of the Environmental Statement, it shows that Stratford, Ilford and Romford gain on the question of accessibility to people who do not have a car—the benefits seem to be focused there. It is all about London.

  6201. My second point is that the benefits to Shenfield, in my submission, are fairly minimal. It is telling that with the comprehensive consultation exercise that has been carried out over a number of years now, it has still been a matter of concern to my clients as to understand those benefits, and we found them listed for the first time yesterday in Ms Lieven's note which was handed in during the course of cross-examination.

  6202. The third point is: Why then has Shenfield been selected? It appears that the plans that have been drawn up over time have simply been predicated on the basis that it will terminate at Shenfield. Trying to grapple with what that means: in my submission, it is an untested assumption that has been there for many years, perhaps a decade.

  6203. The fourth point is that it is claimed that the Shenfield option is the least expensive one but we do not have a proper cost-comparison exercise in the public domain which would enable us to test that proposition.

  6204. The fifth point is that Mr Berryman, as the expert—and no doubt he has assisted in the production of the information paper A7—has come to a decision which involves the quite astonishing contention yesterday, when he was pressed, that it was a matter of common sense.[9] It is not common sense at all. It is a technical, complex issue involving multimillion pound/billion pound project and the information should be in the public domain in our submission.


  6205. Finally, my sixth point. When one looks therefore, at the question of whether a credible case for Shenfield has been advanced, the highest it is put before this Committee is that it is a matter of commonsense. I submit that is woefully inadequate for demonstrating this particular point. There should be proper feasibility studies that we can analyse to demonstrate the point, providing credible evidence, and it is conspicuous by its absence.

  6206. I then turn to the mitigation of Crossrail works within the context of what I have asked to be put up: table 18.2.[10] I opened our case on this basis and I close our case on this basis: there will be a loss of two car parks. It is described by Crossrail as a significant impact and they have committed no mitigation to it. In my submission, that is an astonishing situation in which to find oneself.


  6207. I would make nine points. First of all, it is common ground between us, without any reservation, that the consequence of taking these car parks is significant.

  6208. The second point is that, with those car parks adjacent to the town centre, that is clearly correct, but taking those car parks for some 21 months will, in my submission, jeopardise and undermine the viability of that centre's trade.

  6209. The third point is that the Crossrail development takes those car parks, it gets the benefits, and they have said that they have committed no mitigation in the Environmental Statement. In my submission, this is an abdication of a point of principle, that: if you develop a project like this, if you take the benefit, you should mitigate the consequences. They are significant and they should be mitigated.

  6210. Fourthly, if one asks oneself as to the consequences of what is being proposed, one has a situation where these car parks will be out of order for up to 21 months, with a common period of both impacted for 12 months. In my submission that is justifiably significant.

  6211. My fifth point is: What do they suggest? They do nothing. It is for the borough council to contact one thriving local company that has been singled out to take back their 55 season tickets and deal with it in this way. In my submission, this is not a responsible approach to mitigation.

  6212. The sixth point is that Crossrail have not approached this company. This is the point they have worked up. It is the key to it. They have not contacted Burrows and assessed the impact. As I understand it, all they have done, with the greatest respect to them, is flown over the area in a helicopter, taken an aerial photograph and done parking surveys on the three days. That is a summation of it.

  6213. In my submission, what you have in terms of evidence is Mr Brimley having talked to the company, assessing the impact that would take and explaining how the strategy has been set in terms of the balance of the provision of car park between short-stay and season ticket, and you now have the letter which underpins that point.

  6214. The eighth point is to withdraw those season tickets, which would lead to a situation where there will be impact on a local firm and parking on the roads. This is nothing more, in my respectful submission, than indifference by Crossrail as the Promoter. In my submission it is not a responsible approach.

  6215. The ninth point is this: a temporary car park has been discussed in the past. At one stage it was on the table and we would ask for the strong recommendation from this Committee that this matter be looked at and addressed properly. It is not satisfactory to have a significant impact but with no committed mitigation is wrong in principle.

  6216. Unless I can assist further, sir, those are my closing submissions.

  6217. Chairman: We have received a letter from the Managing Director. We will list that as A72.[11]


  6218. Mr Stoker: Thank you, sir.

  6219. Mr Welfare: Sir, your Committee has heard extensively from residents and myself over the last two days on the issue of the terminus at Shenfield and the issue of the consequence for the area and for individual residents of the works and operation of Crossrail. Residents in Shenfield, whom I represent—and I am sure that is true of others who were here in person—are grateful to have had the opportunity to put those views before you. The basic issue for residents is that the case for Shenfield has not been made, nor even attempted to be made at any serious level in Parliament and before the public. I think I can say that the Promoters have been trying in the last few days to plug that gap. There is no transparency about the decisions leading to the proposals which have come before your Committee in relation to Shenfield. The case, even now, essentially amounts to a negative one: it cannot be done elsewhere on the line without greater cost. Yet even that argument, as my learned friend Mr Stoker has said, is not costed, nor, indeed, is the justification for a line east of Liverpool Street or Stratford seriously set out.


9   Crossrail Information Paper A7, Selection of the North Eastern Terminus http://billdocuments.crossrail.co.uk/ Back

10   Committee Ref: A69, Environmental Statement, Appendix 4, Table 18.2 Route Window NE17- Temporary impacts (BRWDBO-14905-048). Back

11   Committee Ref: A72, tbc. Back


 
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