Select Committee on Crossrail Bill Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 8740 - 8759)

  8740. The Promoter says Crossrail will link Thames Gateway, Docklands, the City, Stratford, the West End and Heathrow. It will also serve the western and eastern suburbs, both of which are expected to see major traffic growth over the next 10 years.

  8741. A Regional Crossrail will do all this, plus better links to Thames Gateway, serve the huge Milton Keynes South Midlands area at Aylesbury, Milton Keynes and Northampton, serve Cambridge, Stansted, M11 and the Lea Valley. Regional Crossrail is infinitely better in serving the Government's wider development aspirations. The regions surrounding London are where rail is really growing, for example there is a 50 per cent growth in rail use in the East of England between 1995 and 2002, a huge growth.

  8742. In the response the Promoter did reject the Aylesbury line which would form part of any regional Crossrail. Their conclusions were that it performed strongly on transport, economic efficiency and reliability. In other words, it attracted a lot of passengers and gave a significant positive economic benefit and would be reliable. It was not selected because of adverse contractual impacts on the Chiltern Line franchise and the Metronet PPP. It seems a strange logic really that the rail network has to be fossilised for years and sound projects rejected to suit contracts that should be there to improve the railway. Crossrail would be improved in every way if some of the trains terminating at Paddington went to Aylesbury.

  8743. The Promoter says that to change now would mean major delays. These can be limited as the most difficult part of the scheme is unchanged and there has already been a lot of work done looking at alternatives. I do not see regional Crossrail as an extension of the scheme but rather a more effective joining of Crossrail into the national rail network. In many ways it would simplify the project with trains terminating and being stabled where they currently are, rather than having to provide extensive new facilities. If billions of pounds are going to be spent, it is vital to get the scheme right.

  8744. Coming to my conclusions. Crossrail is a once in a generation opportunity that must not be wasted. There must be something wrong if Network Rail, the custodian and operator of the national rail network, is an objector rather than an enthusiastic promoter of Crossrail. The train operators, British Airports Authority, the South East and East of England Regional Assemblies all want Crossrail but they do not want the Promoter's scheme.

  8745. Regional Crossrail will be more attractive to investors. Given the investment going into London prior to the Olympics, a further London-only scheme straight afterwards would not be well received. A Regional Crossrail would have much greater support.

  8746. I hope the Committee will look carefully at the Regional option for Crossrail. At little extra cost, and by using existing lines, many more passengers travelling far more miles will use Crossrail and contribute to the costs. The maximum possible relief will be afforded to the London Rail network and central termini and the London Underground. The project would give the greatest possible support to the Government's development plans, the development of the regions and the aspirations to reduce greenhouse gases. It would truly cross the capital and connect the UK.

  8747. My table 2, page 7, shows how the train indicator boards would be if you turn up at Farringdon in 2015.[112] The top board is what you would see for 15 minutes of Thameslink services. It looks excellent. Turn up, a range of destinations to the north and south. Crossrail looks pathetic when compared with Regional Crossrail. If you are going to spend billions of pounds you should not turn up and say four of the six trains go to Paddington, it is hopeless.


  8748. I have gone to the trouble of petitioning the Committee myself as to get Crossrail to Milton Keynes and Northampton means a bit of a change of strategy. At my age I may never see the scheme finished but it is vital to ensure that the right scheme goes forward. The more I looked into the issue the more convinced I became that Regional Crossrail was the right project and best met the Government's wider objectives.

  8749. I would like to thank the Committee for listening to my petition and also Sian Jones and her colleagues for helping me through the petition process. Thank you.

  8750. Chairman: Mr Taylor?

  8751. Mr Taylor: Thank you, Sir. I was not proposing to ask questions or indeed call a witness but just to make submissions. To begin with, it is plain that Mr Middleton is asking for a different scheme to come forward and the present scheme to be dropped. The Promoter would respectfully suggest that goes against the principle of the Bill established by Second Reading, although obviously that is a matter for the Committee to consider. So far as the points made regarding the decision to go with a regional metro type network as opposed to a regional express network, that matter was considered in the year 2000 when the then shadow strategic rail authority carried out the London East-West study, LEWS I think we all know it as by now.[113] It was that study which led to the current planning and development work for Crossrail. The study investigated which of those two service types would be most suited for operating on Crossrail and concluded that the regional metro type service pattern should be favoured over the regional express pattern for a range of reasons, including the much poorer service reliability which would be achieved with the regional express service pattern due to the high level of interrun with other rail services. The Committee will be aware that more information on that decision is set out in chapter six of the Crossrail Environmental Statement published in February last year.


  8752. In addition the Promoters produced an information paper, A1, the development of the Crossrail route which again explains the reasoning which led to the selection of the current route.[114] In brief and rather brutal summary the wider ranging alternatives that were considered did not appear rightly to generate sufficient traffic and/or have technical problems which would be difficult and extensive to overcome leading to a poor cost benefit ratio.


  8753. By limiting the number of branches served and operating wherever possible on segregated tracks the Promoter expects to provide an efficient and reliable service. Spreading the service over numerous routes would increase the risk of importing delays from other lines on to the busy central section of Crossrail with consequent disruption to Crossrail's own services. By creating a large number of opportunities for connection and interchange with other services and other modes of transport Crossrail will provide improved transport over a wide area of the South East.

  8754. Crossrail will, of course, link with the regeneration areas to the east of London and it will link to the important commuter stations to the west and, of course, to Heathrow Airport to the west. In essence it serves London's western and eastern suburbs, both of which are expected to see major traffic growth over the next 10 years.

  8755. After a long period of design studies and consultation the Promoter has concluded that the present Crossrail scheme is the best way of giving significant benefits to the largest possible number of people at a proportionate cost and by a means which is technically feasible.

  8756. Unless there is anything else I can help the Committee with, those are my submissions.

  8757. Chairman: Mr Middleton, do you want the last word, albeit very brief?

  8758. Mr Middleton: Yes. I dealt with those points in my submission. Basically if they can do it for Thameslink why not do it for Crossrail? Really I feel that there is far too much London influence in this. We have a Mayor of London who has a very strong transport authority whereas the regions to the South East and East of England are fairly vague, they have nothing like the clout. The fact that the shadow strategic rail authority decided this was the best scheme, even having accepted it has a higher income, does not mean anything. Strategic rail authorities have come and gone since then, they have been abandoned for whatever reason.

  8759. I realise I missed out one of my paragraphs. If I could just say our traveller now from Southend to Reading on Regional Crossrail would make the journey in one go or we would have a simple get off the train at Bond Street, get on the next one and go off to Reading. For people like me in Milton Keynes, Northampton and Aylesbury, instead of just being dumped at Euston or Marylebone, we would be able to get direct to the West End, pop off at Paddington go to Heathrow, the City, Canary Wharf, Eurostar. I would hope and perhaps go so far as to say if I was on the Committee I would want to be convinced that if we are going to spend billions of pounds the strategy is right.


112   Committee Ref: A100, Farringdon 2015-Typical train indicator boards for 15 minutes in peak hours (LINEWD-2705-007). Back

113   London East-West Study, Strategic Rail Authority, November 2000, www.crossrail.co.uk Back

114   Crossrail Information Paper A1-Development of the Crossrail Route http://billdocuments.crossrail.co.uk Back


 
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