Select Committee on Crossrail Bill Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 9240 - 9259)

  9240. We are concerned that over the time of the construction the learning of the students who are at the school could be affected by noise, dust and vibration and loss of play space. Loss of play space is something we are particularly concerned about, because, at the moment, as you will be aware, the DfES—quite rightly, in my view—has a strong push on developing healthy schools and the health of the children of our nation. Those of you who visited Tower Hamlets yesterday will understand that there is so little outdoor play space for young people in the borough—in fact, I think we are below certain national regulations on that. I go into a little more detail on this later on, but we are concerned, if we have to give up part of our garden and part of our playground, that that will go against the healthy schools agenda. We are concerned about the effect of dust and also noise pollution having an effect on the pupils and staff whilst the construction is taking place.

  9241. I am also very concerned about harming the future development of the school, which could make future funding streams inaccessible. We have a very clear vision for our school at the moment which we are linking in the Building Schools for the Future Agenda. We want to make our school an extended school. We want to develop our post-16 provision, in tune with the 14-19 developments. We have plans for the expansion of the school in terms of buildings but we understand that this may well be put on hold in the light of the Crossrail plan. We have already been unable to develop our playground, where we had plans to remove the concrete and put on Astroturf. We have not been able to do that in the light of Crossrail.

  9242. We would be requesting an undertaking that there is a strategic partnership between the school, the London Borough of Tower Hamlets, the DfT and the DfES to minimise the limitation on opportunities to put in place compensatory arrangements as a result of the Crossrail plan.

  9243. More specifically, going to the school and specific effects, on slide 1 you can see the back of the school, and to the right-hand side of this picture will be the throughway, where Crossrail wants to take away our space and put a car park and an area for their transport to come up and down into their site at the back.[3] I am concerned that this loss of play space will limit football opportunities and play opportunities.


  9244. Slide 2 shows behind the area we have just seen.[4] On the right-hand side, part of that area will be taken up by the Crossrail plan and therefore will limit the size of our playground. Although this has been mentioned at the beginning, we would wish Crossrail to pursue the possibility of an entrance to their site from behind the school, through Trahorn Close. The governing body of the school would urge Crossrail investigate this option. The local authority has indicated it supports the investigation in order for all parties to be satisfied that the best option can be achieved.


  9245. Also, Crossrail has talked about an emergency exit coming through the back of our playground. The governing body has concerns about who would have access to this, how would it operate, and how would it impact on the day-to-day running of the school if we had a large number of people exiting through it when the school is in operation.

  9246. May I move on to noise and vibration, and the next slide. We only have one area of the school where we run public examinations and that is our sports hall.[5] Those of you who visited yesterday saw this. We use this three months out of the whole year for mock exams, SATs, GCSEs, because it is the only area the school can put the whole school In December May and June that sports hall is largely used for examination purposes.[6] Whilst we recognise Crossrail's offer to move children offsite, our concerns would be the disruption of the children and the effect that would have on the children of having to go somewhere else to do their exams. The day-to-day management of that would incur quite considerable cost and we would urge that we try to consider options where the students can stay on site to do those examinations in their best interests.



  9247. In terms of the effect of noise on the school, we recognise the undertaking to meet the standards specified on The Acoustic Design of Schools. It would be a welcome assurance if it were that the noise level was to be dB93—and I am not an expert on these things, so do forgive me—and that a lower noise level was taken rather than the dB93 level. We would like confirmation on the level of noise.

  9248. We would also be grateful if Crossrail could confirm that they would meet the technical support cost incurred by the school and the local authority in assessing the proposals and we would also welcome confirmation that Crossrail would support the running costs for any ventilation equipment that may be installed as a result of construction mitigation.

  9249. The undertaking that particularly noisy activities would take place in holiday periods is most welcome and accepted, but we would like to continue to look at taking further measures during periods of examinations of which we consider to not just be the GCSE exams but would include the mock exams and other school examinations that have to take place in that form.

  9250. As I have already really said, off site accommodation for exams we would find difficult to manage, but if it has to take place we would want the cost of additional management and supervision resources that may be incurred as a result of that.

  9251. I am also concerned about the effect of vibration on the school whilst the railway is being constructed and whilst Crossrail has asked for detailed construction information for the school, the school and local authority has searched archive material and have not been able to locate such information, so Crossrail is requested, therefore, to bear the costs of detailed investigations that would be required to formulate the proposals for mitigation measures against noise and vibration from construction and operation.

  9252. If I could just move on to the next slide, please.[7] At the back of the school, just outside of those doors, is a veranda area which will be taken away by the Crossrail proposals and we are concerned because it is a sheltered place for our youngsters when it is raining, we can go and stand under there, we line them up there on various occasions before they come into school or come into the sports hall, and so I am concerned that that is going to disappear. I am also concerned about fire regulations, because that is a major exit for the school under fire practices or indeed if we did have a fire I would be wanting to be reassured that fire regulations will be met by any plans that Crossrail has to limit that area at the back of the school. That is the veranda I was particularly speaking about, it would leave a gap in our provision for the youngsters having a kind of outdoor sheltered area for them to be in by that particular veranda going.


  9253. The next slide.[8] One of my biggest concerns is the garden that I think some of you saw yesterday. We do not have much garden, but the intention is for quite a lot of that garden to go and also if an exit is going to go through the garden on to Durward Street, which I would like to come back to in a minute, again that would reduce the garden facility even more. It is an important area for the school, it provides outdoor play, outdoor space. We have, just at the end of the garden, an outdoor amphitheatre which is used for outdoor plays and activities in the summer and is a very important part for us of the school; that would disappear under the proposals. [9]



  9254. We have suggested two possible options to Crossrail, one is to provide an indoor play space which would not be quite as good, but which would go some way to accommodate the numbers of students who use the garden at play time or lunch time or to, as they have suggested, extend the garden facilities, but I would say hopefully with an amphitheatre, clearly if the garden was to be moved round to the back of the school, it would incur more management issues than a garden that is just right off the central part of the school, we would need to provide additional management in that particular area.

  9255. In terms of the next area which we are concerned about is Durward Street, which I think you heard about last night as well and I am aware some of you walked along yesterday. In fact I think the slide makes it looks slightly wider than it actually is.[10] It is a very, very narrow street. It is a street where over a third of our pupils come to school and leave school along that street towards Vallance Road. It is also just a bit further behind the red van is what is called our City Learning Centre which is used by all schools across Tower Hamlets, not just Swanlea School, so during the day we have a sizeable number of pupils coming to use the City Learning Centre from all over the borough.


  9256. We are clearly concerned about the safety of our students in that street. We have been concerned to the extent that in our travel plan we had already signalled up our concerns for safety of lorry routes in the existing framework along Durward Street and any future plans could hinder the safety features which we are trying to implement within the street. Also our fire regulations mean that on certain occasions over a third of the school has to evacuate at short notice along Durward Street, it is part of our fire regulations, and we are concerned about the use of that street. If the street is going to be a one-way thoroughfare I would be concerned that it very much could become a rat-run for cars going along there and clearly I would be very concerned about the safety of our youngsters on Durward Street at all times and indeed the safety of other youngsters in schools across the borough when they come to use the City Learning Centre and whilst we appreciate the offer of Crossrail to not use the street from 8.15, between the hours that it has signified, we would be pushing for that to be extended to periods of time when youngsters are coming to the City Learning Centre and we would urge that safety issues should be of the highest paramount in the way that that is then looked at in the future.

  9257. Crossrail has also suggested that we also have an exit into Durward Street for our students. I am very concerned about that proposal at the moment because I worry that it would put more pupils on to the street, but I am also worried that if we did not go along that and took them out into Brady Street, which is the other street, that street there, if we were to let the students out on to that street, that also would lead to safety issues for our students, not just in terms of traffic, but also in terms of management of groups of youngsters which I explained to Crossrail when they visited last week and therefore if we were to exit on to Brady Street I would be seeking again further management compensation on that because it would require further management of the school at the end of the day more than we are actually providing at the moment.[11]


  9258. Finally, in terms of the last two issues, in terms of cranes, the undertaking from Crossrail is noted and accepted and in terms of the school premises' manager's accommodation, we would accept the proposals, but we would just like to say if there is to be a re-build we would like it to be re-built according to the school's specifications and that is the end.

  9259. I have brought some of my students who are behind me just to give me some support this morning and to have the experience of being here. That is all I want to say for the moment.


3   Committee Ref: A108, Photograph of the rear of Swanlea School (TOWNHLB-30305-006). Back

4   Committee Ref: A108, Photograph of the playground at Swanlea School (TOWNHLB-30305-007). Back

5   Committee Ref: A108, Photograph of the sports hall at Swanlea School (TOWNHLB-30305-008). Back

6   Committee Ref: A108, Photograph of the sports hall in use for examination purposes at Swanlea School (TOWNHLB-30305-009). Back

7   Committee Ref: A108, Photograph of the veranda at Swanlea School (TOWNHLB-30305-010). Back

8   Committee Ref: A108, Photograph of the garden at Swanlea School (TOWNHLB-30305-011). Back

9   Committee Ref: A108, Further photograph of the garden at Swanlea School (TOWNHLB-30305-014). Back

10   Committee Ref: A108, Photograph of Swanlea School from Durward Street (TOWNHLB-30305-016). Back

11   Committee Ref: A108, Photograph of Swanlea School from Brady Street (TOWNHLB-30305-017 and 018). Back


 
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