Select Committee on Crossrail Bill Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 15460 - 15479)

  15460. Mr Liddell-Grainger: I think you can safely say Mr Taylor will have taken that well on board.

  15461. Mr Pout: We have made point 10 as an observation. We have not been part of the many people who have objected to that but have put it as an observation to ensure that the station design of Abbey Wood is such that it can be later extended.[38]


  15462. Mr Liddell-Grainger: I am sorry, we can take it as an observation but it is not within the auspices of the Bill. We work between the stations we have got.

  15463. Mr Pout: Even a full understanding of the layout of the station—

  15464. Mr Liddell-Grainger: I thought you meant an extension of the line. The station, of course we do. I am sorry; I thought you meant that you wanted it to go to Dover or somewhere.

  15465. Mr Pout: No. I have been told by a couple of local authority officers that they believe that there is design capability.[39] Our concern is that that design capability is there for Abbey Wood, so that, at a future station, if additional works were required beyond Abbey Wood, then a T&W Act application can go in to extend the route beyond—as far as it need go: Dartford, Ebbsfleet or wherever.


  15466. Mr Liddell-Grainger: The observation is taken on board.

  15467. Mr Pout: Lastly we are concerned about the protection of local street trees and whether construction activities may affect trees in the vicinity and what mitigation is being taken to ensure that if trees are removed they are replaced, and to ensure that the take of mature trees is minimalised.

  15468. Mr Liddell-Grainger: In relation to Shenfield, we had great representation about trees. It did strike the Committee that it was pretty well answered by the Promoter, but, again, Mr Taylor will have taken that on board.

  15469. Mr Pout: Thank you, Mr Liddell-Grainger.

  15470. Mr Liddell-Grainger: Thank you very much indeed, Mr Pout. Thank you for your briefing paper. It is A172.

  15471. Mr Taylor: Sir, I am not going to call any evidence but I will respond as briefly as I can, going through the headings that the Thames Gateway Forum have put in before the Committee in the document you have just referred to.

  15472. In relation to consultation on the Whitechapels and Spitalfields area, we would agree with the Gateway Forum that the Crossrail team were somewhat taken aback by the hostile reception they got back in October 2004. It is difficult not to be somewhat taken aback when people are throwing biscuits at you!

  15473. In relation to the concerns about the extent to which there has been consultation in that area, the Committee has already had a large amount of evidence on that. In particular, I would refer you to Day 1, paragraph 71 and following, where documents were referred to which examined the extent to which there had been penetration and knowledge about the project in that specific area, and to Mr Elvin's closing on Day 43, paragraph 11682 and following, on that specific issue.

  15474. Turning to Hanbury Street, the Committee is of course aware that there is ongoing work in relation to the assessment of the environmental impacts of Hanbury Street. It is a matter on which further information is going to be provided. In relation to lorry movements, that will be included in that assessment. So far as the implications of traffic are concerned, it is proposed in the Crossrail Construction Code to produce traffic management plans, but there is a specific section, 4.5 in the Code, relating to street cleaning, and all reasonably practicable measures will be taken in that regard. So far as other impacts of construction, such as noise, the Committee is already well aware of the mitigation scheme proposed in information paper D9.

  15475. I shall not say anything about Romford Depot. That is a matter that you will be hearing more or less about in relation to AP3.

  15476. In relation to cycles and cyclists, the position has already been addressed in information paper E2, which the Committee has.[40] I would refer the Committee to Section 4 of the information paper E2. "Crossrail will be consistent with the London Underground policy on cycle carriage"—because of course there is an interface between the two systems. Of course it is not possible to take cycles on the London Underground at the moment for obvious safety reasons, and similarly, in relation to Crossrail, where it is in the tunnelled section through the central section the same thing is proposed. Those who want to use Crossrail on the outer limbs will have to change their trains at stations before they get into the tunnelled section.


  15477. So far as mobility access is concerned, that was addressed, as Mr Binley may have mentioned or whispered to you before, on Day 46, paragraph 13069, in some detail and I will not repeat the points that were pursued there.

  15478. The Eleanor Street travellers' site is going to be a matter that is pursued through AP3.

  15479. On Woolwich and the extension to Ebbsfleet, you have heard a great deal of evidence from us on that and I am not going to repeat it. You know very well what our position is in relation to those matters.


38   Crossrail Environmental Statement, Volume 4b, Abbey Wood Station, Key Environmental Features-Map SE8(i), billdocuments.crossrail.co.uk (LINEWD-ES17-125). Back

39   Committee Ref: A172, London Thames Gateway Forum-Extension of route beyond Abbey Wood (LINEWD-35105-004). Back

40   Crossrail Information Paper E2-Cycle Carriage and Cycle Parking, billdocuments.crossrail.co.uk Back


 
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