Select Committee on Crossrail Bill Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 15480 - 15499)

  15480. So far as the protection of trees is concerned, I would say that trees will be adequately protected by the safeguards that are set out in the Construction Code.[41] Section 10.4 is an entire section on the protection of trees and that makes it abundantly clear that protective measures will be taken in accordance with the relevant British standard to protect trees during the construction process.


  15481. Mr Liddell-Grainger: I think it was also said in relation to Shenfield that there would be a policy of trying to replace trees where practically possible. Is that still the case?

  15482. Mr Taylor: That is still the case.

  15483. Mr Liddell-Grainger: You would be trying to replace like for like if possible on all sites.

  15484. Mr Taylor: Indeed.

  15485. Mr Liddell-Grainger: Thank you very much, Mr Taylor. Mr Pout?

  15486. Mr Pout: Thank you very much indeed. That is very useful. There is one issue that I would therefore like to raise, if I may—and looking at the time, I realise it is pressing. It would be very helpful to have a few moments of examination of Mr Berryman to clarify a couple of issues around Maryland Station.

  15487. Mr Liddell-Grainger: I am not sure we can do that because he has not been called as a witness by the Promoter. I suggest, Mr Pout, that you tell me, as the Chairman of the Committee what your feeling is. If we have to ask Mr Taylor just to have thoughts on it, then we shall do so. Would you like to fire away.

  15488. Mr Pout: Okay. Thank you very much. That is very useful guidance. The original Crossrail project of a decade or more ago included Maryland Station. At that stage, Crossrail was going to be designed to operate mega-length 12-car trains. The current scheme is for slightly shorter trains of 10 carriages. Initially the proposal was not to incorporate Maryland at all, but, if there was a residual service during the peaks, these trains could stop at Maryland, but off-peak and at weekends probably others would not. I only identified that as a problem, because at that stage I said, "What trains are you going to use because the existing trains will be over 30 years old and you have a new fleet of Crossrail trains and if they have been sued even out of Liverpool Street you cannot stop them because they are too long."

  15489. They came up with the idea of what is politely known as selective door opening, which means that you use an electronic or satellite system which says that you do not open the end-most doors of the outer coaches of each train, so that the existing platform length will accommodate those doors that are open. What I am wondering is why they made this decision to exclude Maryland this time—Maryland was considered so unimportant—but it had been included in the previous scheme, and some assurance that there will be a decent level of service to Maryland.

  15490. At the present time the latest operator now actually ensures that all of their off-peak services stop there, whereas until a couple of years ago our old friends First Group did not stop their trains there. I think that is the issue around Maryland: to ensure that it is adequately serving that community and that its business will grow.

  15491. Mr Liddell-Grainger: This is a bit unconventional because you have gone slightly round the wrong way, it is 4.30 and the House has adjourned, but I am feeling very generous. Mr Taylor, would you like to address us?

  15492. Mr Taylor: I would. In fact, I intended to address this matter and skipped over that part of my notes, unintentionally. So if you will forgive me, and I am very grateful to Mr Pout for drawing it to the Committee's attention that I failed to deal with that matter. I think probably the best way is if I deal with it, and we will see whether that is satisfactory from Mr Pout's point of view.

  15493. I am instructed that the earliest scheme in the early 1990s was a scheme not for 12-car trains, as Mr Pout suggested, but for 8-car trains. Eight-car trains can stop at Maryland without the need for any platforming. The current scheme before the Committee is a scheme for 10-car trains and the reason that Maryland was originally left out was because that would have required platform extension works which would have been very extensive because they would have affected a road bridge. So there was a disproportionate cost.

  15494. The matter is being pursued by the London Borough of Newham, as the Committee may recall, and undertakings were given to them on Day 28, paragraph 7494. The position is that the undertaking provided is that trains will stop at Maryland because selective door opening will be used, but that is subject to the approval of the Railways Inspectorate.

  15495. So far as the level of service is concerned, that is a matter on which we are continuing to discuss undertakings with the London Borough of Newham.

  15496. Mr Liddell-Grainger: I look forward to hearing how those deliberations get on, especially as I certainly know all the interested parties. Once you have that information, Mr Taylor, would you let us know? Mr Pout?

  15497. Mr Pout: I think I would disagree with Mr Taylor—

  15498. Mr Liddell-Grainger: I am not having ping-pong played in this Committee.

  15499. Mr Pout: Twelve-car coaches—neither here nor there, but we will worry about that outside the room. I think that covers most of the issues we are concerned about, and obviously we are now being given regular updates from the team and if there are any other matters which come to our concern before this Committee concludes—may I ask how much longer you are likely to be—


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