Select Committee on Crossrail Bill Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 17360 - 17379)

  17360. We are well established with our local services such as youth clubs, the local parish churches and other amenities. We have very strong relationships with our local neighbours, which have been built up through the years. Some of the younger travellers are now married to members of the local settled community.

  17361. We have been in negotiations with Crossrail since 2004. Communication and consultation were very poor at the start. We were not informed officially by Crossrail of our homes being under threat by the building of the ventilation shaft for their railway. With much perseverance by myself and the residents group we have negotiated with Crossrail for many months, and have come to an agreement that we feel confident will save our homes and our community.

  17362. We are in support of Crossrail's proposal to acquire the two pieces of land as outlined in the Additional Provisions statement paragraph 4.2.3. This is known as option 4B. This includes the Laundry Building (39-41 Eleanor Street) and Units 1-3 of Bow Triangle Business Centre.

  17363. We are supporting Option 4B for the following reasons:

  17364. Our caravan site will be relocated within the Bow Triangle and we will be able to remain as a community and continue with our traditional way of life. There will be less upheaval and stress for our community as our children will be able to remain in their primary and secondary schools, and their education will not be disrupted. We will be able to continue our strong links with the local community and local services, which has taken us many years to establish. We will not have to face an uncertain future.

  17365. We will only have to face the upheaval of one phased move rather than a double move, as proposed by Crossrail in Option 4A.

  17366. We do not consider Option 4A (which is acquiring the laundry building only) as a suitable option for our community. This will mean a double-phased move and living on a temporary basis for four years with uncertainty. We are concerned that half the residents would not have the same standard of amenities they have now. The site will be smaller and the conditions will be unacceptable. This will cause stress and conflict in the community.

  17367. Acquiring the two pieces of land will provide enough space to accommodate all the residents.

  17368. We are keen to support and work with Crossrail in the building of their railway, and we believe that this option will satisfy both parties. We also believe that this option will save Crossrail's resources. We believe that Option 4 is the only solution which we think is acceptable for the residents of Eleanor Street and provides Crossrail with a way forward to building their railway.

  17369. Thank you for your time. We would appreciate if you would please consider all of the above in our favour when making your decision.

  17370. Chairman: Thank you very much indeed.

  17371. Mr Mould: Chairman, the principal point to make in relation to this Petition is plainly that the Petitioner is speaking on behalf of the proposed additional provision that I outlined to the Committee in my brief opening statement; and plainly we welcome that and we, for the reasons I have given, believe that what she calls Option 4B and what I have described as Option 2 are one and the same thing—the arrangements I outlined to you earlier—that, on balance, that is the appropriate way forward here and we commend that to the Committee.

  17372. All I need to say beyond that is this: the Petitioner raised concerns about the quality of the consultation process earlier in the development of the Bill scheme. What I would say is, my instructions are that there was certainly a meeting with the occupiers of the travellers' site and the London Gypsy Travellers' unit on 10 November 2004, which was followed up with a further meeting between the Promoter and the borough council, the occupiers and the GLA on 25 April 2005. There was a consultative process in place. I can say no more about any concerns that have been raised today in relation to the quality of that; but it would not be right for the Committee to conclude that contact was not being made and matters not being explained to the occupiers as the scheme proposals progressed.

  17373. Unless there is anything else, that is all I wanted to say in response to this Petition.

  17374. Ms Mahoney: I am happy to the extent that at the start of the negotiations we had to go ourselves and find out what was happening to our site because I do not think Crossrail knew we existed in the caravan site—it just came up as Eleanor Street. We, in the Residents' Group, found information for ourselves and got in contact with Crossrail and informed Crossrail that 20 families were living on Eleanor Street. From then on we took up negotiations with Crossrail.

  17375. Chairman: Can I, on behalf of the Committee commend the Promoters for eventually communicating and reaching a sensible agreement. In so many of these cases that does not apply, particularly with traveller and gypsy groups who are left with very little communication. May I place on record the Committee's thanks for the work done in this respect.

  17376. For the record, can I call the next Petitioner, Mr McIntyre.

  17377. Mr Mould: Chairman, I have seen an e-mail exchange which certainly indicated to me that Mr McIntyre was content to leave his Petition in writing.

  17378. Chairman: Could I also call Mr Alan Goshchalk on behalf of Paperback Limited if he is in attendance.

  17379. Ms Lieven: Chairman, we know that Mr Goshchalk is coming because Mr Smith had a telephone conversation with him this morning, but we do not think he is here yet. Mr Smith spoke to him just before ten o'clock and at that stage he was in the Bow Business Unit so he is on his way.


 
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